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Bekir İrtegün

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Jun 18, 14:23


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Re: Bekir İrtegün

Postby A-SK » 2009 Sep 22, 23:45

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Re: Bekir İrtegün

Postby general suvorov » 2009 Sep 23, 09:48

thank you for the good read mate but isn't defence a bit low? I mean he was playing as CB last year and Daum is using his as fullback. At least he should warrant 76. His defence is better than Yasin Çakmak or Giray Kaçar imo
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Re: Bekir İrtegün

Postby A-SK » 2009 Sep 24, 22:39

i really don't rate him very highly, defensively speaking. he can't tackle to save his life! i wouldn't give him anything higher than 74/73.
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Re: Bekir Irtegün

Postby general suvorov » 2010 Jan 20, 15:04

given him a general update. Still I'm not sure if we consider him as full back or CB.
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Re: Bekir Irtegün

Postby PMC » 2010 Feb 26, 11:04

has he played as CB vs Lille?
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Re: Bekir Irtegün

Postby Omer » 2010 Feb 26, 17:01

yes and he did a very good job
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Re: Bekir Irtegün

Postby general suvorov » 2010 Feb 26, 17:09

Omer wrote:yes and he did a very good job


imo daum is underestimating abilities of Bekir. Considering his performance on Gaziantepspor I reckon him at least as good as Önder Turacı. (or even better than him)
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Re: Bekir Irtegün

Postby A-SK » 2010 Feb 27, 08:36

I'm working on an update that really suits this guy. Personally, I rate him defensively more reliable than Marius Constantin. Paul describes Marius as "way too irregular and eccentric" whereas Bekir is the complete opposite. He has the ability to develop into an amazing defender, but needs to be playing more often and against good opposition. As a fullback, he struggles to keep up with quick wingers and he isn't overly strong as well. His crosses tend to float in the air and they aren't accurate by any means. He isn't entirely 2-footed as well. He rarely ever gets forward and isn't the most brave player. He knows his limits and he won't push 'em. He's common sense and composure are his best attributes. He struggles to intercept the ball off his man in an open area and is most effective in close quarters. Melo hasn't done a bad job of rating him, but his best attributes is his "intuition and concentration". That's something that both Lugano and Bilice are missing. I was quick to judge, but Bekir has really begun to impress me....
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A must needed update for Bekir

Postby A-SK » 2010 Mar 07, 08:03

Bekir isn't what you call a typical fullback. He has all the characteristics of a central defender and very little of a fullback. Defensively speaking, he does well to close down the right flank, but he isn't difficult to wriggle past and he's not great at providing cover. He seems to struggle positioning himself in an open area and is more suited in a central position. It's the main reason why he defended so well against Lille. Physically speaking, he isn't overly strong and has had a difficult time with the likes of Josh Simpson. On the straights, he's not really all the effective and is more suited to play in close quarters. Bekir is also rather heavy footed and easily wrong footed. On the ball, he has no skills and his ground passes are limited to the closest person next to him. His crossing is also really shabby. A combination of little power and no placement makes him almost entirely useless at crossing. Going forward, he's probably the most ineffective player in the team. I can honestly say that Bilica and Lugano put him to shame. His goal to game ratio is something like 0.02, his dribbling skills are limited and his ball distribution is no better than the average central defender. He rarely overlaps and often leaves the attacking to whom ever is playing ahead of him. According to Bekir, his best asset is his concentration and intuition. I don't entirely agree with him. He's probably slightly better than the average TSL defender, but I don't rate him higher than a similar player like Miguel Garcia, but I don't rate him lower then Ersin Veli :?

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Re: Bekir Irtegün

Postby Kanouté » 2010 Mar 07, 11:53

A-SK, very good set imo. I would have no problem with you updating it.
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Re: BEKIR Irtegün

Postby general suvorov » 2010 Jun 04, 14:54

fully updated!
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Re: BEKIR Irtegün

Postby general suvorov » 2010 Jun 28, 11:49

I think 2 fields still needs to be changed. One of them is the defence. Considering players like Elyasa and Önder sitting on 75 I see no reason why Bekir can't be given 74. I believe he shall be edited as center back as he's carrying charaterstics of a CB but converted as SB due to his technical capability. And also for header; as far as I remember Uğur Boral's headers were raised as he scored 2 goals in one single game. Bekir also scored headers with fenerbahçe and gaziantepspor yet he got only 74, hsi value shall not be lower than Uğur imo.
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Re: BEKIR Irtegün

Postby Omer » 2010 Jun 29, 23:49

his defence should be 76 at least
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Re: BEKIR Irtegün

Postby Zeta » 2010 Jul 01, 16:25

i also see him as a central defender.
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Re: BEKIR Irtegün

Postby Omer » 2010 Jul 01, 17:42

Zeta wrote:i also see him as a central defender.

he is a cd..
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Re: BEKIR Irtegün

Postby A-SK » 2010 Jul 01, 22:21

No, omer, he's a fullback according to Daum and unless he plays regularly as a central defender, there's no point denying he's a fullback because he is. simple as. you think he's a central defender, but not the managers. they play him both positions so it's wrong to rate him higher than onder. both players are similar.
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Re: BEKIR Irtegün

Postby Omer » 2010 Jul 02, 06:04

daum is dumb he was tryin to make anelka a winger..

bekir has never played as a fullback at gaziantep
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Re: BEKIR Irtegün

Postby A-SK » 2010 Jul 02, 08:26

Omer, are you trying to be funny? He was given the position prior to his arrival to the club and there are several links on the net that can back that up. He was opted in both positions (SB and CB) for fenerbahce and galatasaray so both are his positions. He resembles a central defender a bit more, but has the ability to play closer to the touchline. Feel free to have a read...

Anelka was never played as winger. He was always played as a single striker with a five man midfielder behind him. The central mid fielders have obviously changed and Daum was using the side mid fielders closer to the striker than the defence. He was trying to use the wingers to get involved and score goals. That's the main difference.
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Re: BEKIR Irtegün

Postby general suvorov » 2010 Jul 29, 09:42

he played as CB against Young Boys and I think response and tw is too high.

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