Paolo Maldini | 1993-1994 | 2002-2003 | 2006-2007


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Paolo Maldini | 1993-1994 | 2002-2003 | 2006-2007

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 May 07, 19:38

Club: AC Milan



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Club: AC Milan



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Club: AC Milan



Growth type: Early/Lasting

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Paolo Maldini is already regarded by so many as the greatest defender of all-time after his retirement at 41 Year olds. He was honoured to retire number 3 for AC Milan which he played a total of 902 matches for 25 seasons and holds all-time record most appearance in European Cup with 139 games. He made his debut in in Italian serie A as a 16 year olds becoming a world-class defender since the age of 20 year onwards for AC Milan and Italy, sustainomg his level through 1990s before switching from left-back to center-back during 2000s where he still performed at a world class level for many years. He was also voted in top ten Ballon D’or's in 1993, 1996, 2000 and 2005, also being voted in top ten FIFA World Player Of The Year in 1996 and 2005. Maldini is a modern defender with considerable technique and vision, solid defensively, quick and with excellent recuperation skills. Maldini holds the all-time world cup record of 2,217 consecutive minutes played and also holds with Francisco Gento of the all-time most appearances in European Cup final with 8. Maldini was finished 10th in UEFA Jubilee Poll as the best European footballer in last 50 years


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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993/1994

Postby CDDRodrigo » 2009 May 07, 21:24

Was he better in Defense than the more experienced Maldini?
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993/1994

Postby sencesor » 2009 May 09, 14:04

Well its about fu*king time! thanx Rza.. :P
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993/1994

Postby silv » 2009 Jul 02, 22:49

recently retired. please move to 90's
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993/1994

Postby Vandeach » 2009 Jul 03, 14:59

He is a *SB, he can't possibly have this defence value.
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993/1994

Postby CDDRodrigo » 2009 Jul 03, 16:15

Vandeach wrote:He is a *SB, he can't possibly have this defence value.


Nah, I think he was a god in positioning, but it could be lowererd to 95...
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993/1994

Postby Vandeach » 2009 Jul 03, 16:40

Thats terrible reasoning, an 80 is a fantastic value for a defensive full-back, he should be rated differently as a full-back than a centre-back, a 96 is madness! Just for comparison, the best defensive full-back in the world today, Heinze, is at an 82, considering god region points he is about 25 points above the second best defensive full-back! Thats madness! He was probably the best defensive full-back of all time and could probably be given an 87! But a 96 :|?
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993/1994

Postby Brezza » 2009 Jul 09, 22:49

Vandeach wrote:He is a *SB, he can't possibly have this defence value.


Vandeach wrote:Thats terrible reasoning,


agreed. :P
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993/1994

Postby Vandeach » 2009 Jul 10, 16:19

I knew you'd pick me up on that :P. But seriously Brezza, its far too high.
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993/1994

Postby CDDRodrigo » 2009 Jul 10, 20:11

Well, maybe you guys are right, and now I think he was a god in positioning when he became a CB... 87-88 for DEF then.
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993/1994

Postby Classical » 2009 Jul 14, 14:30

Does anyone know (an estimation is alright) the ammount of games Maldini played center back in this season?

I remember him more as a sideback (and with this the defence value is perfectly rated) but if he did play (let's say...) 50% games as a center back he should have more.

But yes indeed, I think that the way he is evalued now makes more sense.
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993/1994

Postby Brezza » 2009 Jul 17, 20:42

Vandeach wrote:I knew you'd pick me up on that :P. But seriously Brezza, its far too high.


Bit harsh I know :P, but you do make a point and Ive lowered it. its just that i feel he was just defensively as players like Bergomi and Gentile who played cenreback and fullback regularly albeit they are both registered cb's. What do people think of Thuram's defence rating by the way? Would be pretty overrated now compared to Maldini but he was primarily a centreback for Parma and a fullback for France.
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993-1994

Postby Vandeach » 2009 Jul 18, 09:38

Look at his response value though, around 18 points better than any full-back playing today considering god region values, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it, but I really think we should be looking to raise some SB's response value's.
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993-1994 & 2002-2003

Postby Brezza » 2009 Sep 07, 04:21

Added Centreback era Maldini ;)
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I forgot to upload it to tinypic, I know.. thanks a lot for changing it.. this one looks good as well :geek:

now.. guvs, I've got some suggestions.. firstly.. some decreases..

defence to 95.. just 'a cosmetic' change and although Paolo had fucking brilliant positional sense during this prime center back era.. he still wasn't that close to CB legends.. so maybe even 93/94 will be okay as he has fucking high response and good physical stats.. what do you think about this guys? his game wasn't really based at superbly flawless positional sense.. although he had immensely accurate tackles and he was at the time impenetrable fortress when paired together with Sandro.. but it was indeed Nesta who had the better pure positioning and tackles! Maldini was better overall though I dare to say..

FKA to 69 (just a detail.. but whatever!)

some increases.. I'd suggest mentality 96.. he was absolutely giving his ALL during this era.. he could put Puyol into pocket with his hard work..

also team work could go up to around 93 tbh.. he was the commander-in-chief of the defence and it was only because of him Milan didn't get like 9 goals in each match.. he orchestrated everyone with flair.. even though Dida could pull of great performances.. he was fucking unstable..
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993-1994 & 2002-2003

Postby ryan1422 » 2009 Sep 08, 11:12

Krol was the best defensive side of the world, and I think it still remains so. Maldini was defense counsel in a 3 man originally guarded the left flank, but it was more a center than a lateral. I'm not saying that does not serve as a winger.
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993-1994 & 2002-2003

Postby p1rha » 2009 Oct 27, 22:22

I don't think the 34 year old Maldini deserved an 87 for BB.

By this time Maldini wasn't stronger than Pepe (86), and he surely deserves more than 1 point gap to the current Puyol, who is much shorter, and Piqué (87 both) . Even at 85 he would be at the level of Sergio Ramos and Chyhrynskiy.

If compared to the actual serie A ladder i'd go for the 86 maybe, but with his amazing tackling ability given by his defense, response and agility, plus his technique, his accelaration, etc... I just think a lower value for BB would portrait a more classy, old dog style.
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993-1994 & 2002-2003

Postby prosser2k10 » 2009 Oct 27, 22:47

p1rha wrote:I don't think the 34 year old Maldini deserved an 87 for BB.

By this time Maldini wasn't stronger than Pepe (86), and he surely deserves more than 1 point gap to the current Puyol, who is much shorter, and Piqué (87 both) . Even at 85 he would be at the level of Sergio Ramos and Chyhrynskiy.

If compared to the actual serie A ladder i'd go for the 86 maybe, but with his amazing tackling ability given by his defense, response and agility, plus his technique, his accelaration, etc... I just think a lower value for BB would portrait a more classy, old dog style.

He's the best Defender ever, but I agree on a 86 ;)
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993-1994 & 2002-2003

Postby Phil » 2010 Feb 19, 21:07

Now that the classic players are being looked at a lot more seriously, I think many classic defenders are a little bit overrated in TW, for instance Maldini and Baresi are on 95 and the highest modern player is on 88 (Puyol I think). Now that is quite a substantial difference and whilst these two deserve to be higher tham Puyol, 7 points (plus orange and red values are worth more) seem a little excessive. I don't think there is much need for a defender to be so high in TW and them sort of values (especially red values) should only really be needed for playmaker type players with great vision imo.
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993-1994 & 2002-2003

Postby Fevernova » 2010 Feb 19, 21:22

phil-g2006 wrote:Now that the classic players are being looked at a lot more seriously, I think many classic defenders are a little bit overrated in TW, for instance Maldini and Baresi are on 95 and the highest modern player is on 88 (Puyol I think). Now that is quite a substantial difference and whilst these two deserve to be higher tham Puyol, 7 points (plus orange and red values are worth more) seem a little excessive. I don't think there is much need for a defender to be so high in TW and them sort of values (especially red values) should only really be needed for playmaker type players with great vision imo.


It´s true Phil, great observations. Perhaps it´s not so much Classic players being overated in that area rather than Present players being underated, either way, it´s really a matter to be questioned. Thanks for bringing iy up ;)
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Re: Paolo MALDINI | 1993-1994 & 2002-2003

Postby hsnandra » 2010 May 03, 20:27

I'm not so sure about his Growth type as Early/Lasting. I think they should both be changed to either Late Peak or Late/Lasting due to the simple fact that, as a player, his stats did not fluctuate a great deal over his whole career.

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