Alex de Souza | 1998-2000 | 2004-2005 | 2012-2014


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Alex de Souza | 1998-2000 | 2004-2005 | 2012-2014

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Jan 23, 14:55

Club: SE Palmeiras (1998-2000)

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Club: Fenerbahce SK (2004-2005)

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Club: Coritiba (2012-2014)

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Re: ALEX de Souza | 2004-2005

Postby pes_hhc » 2009 Feb 02, 18:24

2005 length 1.78 cm
2009 length 1.75 cm :mrgreen:

I think should be 86-87 agility.good stats,thanks.
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Re: ALEX de Souza | 2004-2005

Postby Alcohomicide » 2009 Feb 02, 18:48

I think Technique could go down to 90, maybe slightly lower. His trapping is good, but not on a par with Rui Costa who sits @ 93.
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Re: ALEX de Souza | 2004-2005

Postby jurgens » 2011 Aug 02, 22:24

Any turkish members can give some insight on this? Would like to hear a-sk's opinion. I'm sure it can do with a few changes.
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Re: ALEX de Souza | 2004-2005

Postby bruno bronze » 2013 Nov 13, 22:01

Well, well, no one make's one post here since 2011, and the last change was in the beginning of this year.
Soo, i have some questions in my mind, and these questions are, Alex with 26 in this classic set had less dribble speed, response and stamina than his actual set with him on 36? this is correct? I really doubt he is faster at 36, and i doubt much more that he's got more stamina at 36 (even beeing one point, i still feel this is not right). Or maibe his 36 years old set is overrated, i'll try to watch more games from him on fenerbahce during 2005, and then give more concrete changes on this set, but people who watched alex during 2005 could help.
I am Brazilian and I am not good with English, soo, sorry for any mistake.
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Re: ALEX de Souza | 2004-2005

Postby Brunus » 2014 May 18, 18:05

I can help.

I follow Alex 's career from the beginning , especially in Palmeiras 1997 .

Alex was too technical, too elegant . I would in 94 technical .

The speed , despite being a slow player , 73 is too bad. Maybe 78 . And on acceleration , I put in 82 .

Now, without doubt, the biggest mistake that these attributes, is the lack of offensive power. Alex was a very offensive midfielder and striker. Goals did anyway.

Was the top scorer of the Brazilian championship in 2003, and one of the top 5 in Turkey during his years there.

I would put 90 in your offense . And the precision kick, put 90 ; and strength of shot 85 . He also made many headed goals , despite the size , because he had the presence of area . Put in 85-87 header .

Here, Alex is worse offensively than Fabregas. That's an insult.

Alex kicked very well. Much effort in quality. Strong and directed. Look at the videos.

And his strike force 84, equaling Fábregas? No, not even.

Anything to see their stats and videos .

The big problem Alex , for not having more global prominence was his mentality. Put 73 . He faded in many games . But in fact it was a football genius . In Brazil is much revered by the media , which too demanded the convocation for the World Cups of 2002 and 2006 and even in 2010 .
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Re: ALEX de Souza | 2004-2005

Postby pcrooce » 2019 May 06, 00:15

he needs a 2010-11 set.

i'll try and post a few suggestions these next few days if i remember.
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Re: ALEX de Souza | 2004-2005

Postby Whoah10115 » 2020 Aug 04, 03:19

Alex > Riquelme
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Re: ALEX de Souza | 2004-2005

Postby paddypoohead » 2020 Aug 04, 19:26

no.
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Re: ALEX de Souza | 2004-2005

Postby Defender1990 » 2020 Aug 05, 23:43

Just no.
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Re: ALEX de Souza | 2004-2005

Postby Whoah10115 » 2020 Aug 06, 13:12

No no, it's true. Trust me
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Re: ALEX de Souza | 2004-2005

Postby paddypoohead » 2020 Aug 09, 23:01

oh ok i didnt think of it like that
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Re: ALEX de Souza | 2004-2005

Postby Whoah10115 » 2020 Aug 13, 18:04

paddypoohead wrote:oh ok i didnt think of it like that


Exactly. It happens, so no worries.

Now, honestly, I do believe he was better at his best than Riquelme at his. I recognize that he never -apart from less than a half season in Italy- played at the highest level for a club. I say this as someone who likes Riqueleme, despite his being Argentine and despite his being a big bitch. I do think Riquelme's SPA and TECH are way too high, but even so he was a special player.

I think Alex confirmed a lot of what we saw at Cruzeiro and Fenerbaçhe when he played for the Seleção. He (not Adriano) was the best player at the 2004 Copa América.

I think he had more flair, better scorer and could go at the other team better. That all said, he went to Fenerbaçhe and didn't leave. I know Luxemburgo wanted him at Real and was fired, but Alex could have made a move. On him.
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Re: Alex de Souza | 1998-2000 | 2004-2005 | 2012-2014

Postby Vickingo » 2021 Jan 31, 22:05

Well I dedicated all this day to rewatch all what I found from Alex at Palmeiras. Also a little to refresh my memories from him in the last era in Coritiba.

Also I chose a pic for his Fenerbahce days and freze the last set, fixing some things which were overrated.

About Palmeiras, I don't want to make a long ass post cause I'll be posting the players but Alex was obviously the best player of the team, amazing and young talent back then. Also I watched some vs from him in 1999 playing with Ronaldinho at NT and he was even better than Dinho sometimes.

I can't find him that good passer, at least in this era, he was REALLY sloppy and he lost the ball all the time cause his bad passing, probably his weakesst posint. I can't watch him better than this, he became an insane passer when he went to Turkey or around Cruzeiro's times, but at Palmeiras I can't see it, at all, quite the opposite. Even I think I'm being generous with the 83.

He had good intentions, good 1st touch quick thoughts but he missed almost all the time. His SPS didn't help him and there's a huge difference at open play when he tried long balls to Nunes/Oseas or to the sides for Arce or Junior.

I'm absolutely amazed with his dribbling and his 1st touch, just too much, also he tried really hard movements to trap the ball and he did it. He was very aggressive on his style back then, going forward and starting every Palmeiras' attack from the back, he was really useful.

Bad things aside his spa? He disappeared the game from time to time and his motivation was unestable. That was probably the problem at his career to not being the BIG thing he could have been.

I see 2 things that are overlooked as hell in him: 1st his heading/jump. That was visible awesome, he made runs all the time from the outside the box asking the ball to Arce or Junior and he did it like...all the time. He scored a good amount of header goals and his jump was also really good, even at his late years at Coritiba he showed good things in the air.

2) His defensive contribution and marking/slide tackle were really really good on his day. I don't know if it was the match vs RIver or vs Dep. Cali, the guy stole like 7/8 balls? Amazing reading of the opponents intentions to steal it...specially thinking he was a really talented and somewhat lazy playmaker.

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