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Borges

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 16, 09:49

Full Name: Humberlito Borges Teixeira

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Re: Borges

Postby CDDRodrigo » 2009 Jan 21, 23:59

Balance: 85
Shot Accuracy: 83
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Re: Borges

Postby PMC » 2009 Jan 22, 00:57

is he really that strong for a tiny guy? :shock:
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Re: Borges

Postby renatomm » 2009 Jan 22, 01:58

agree with SA, but Balance:85 is really high 81/82 is very good for him
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Re: Borges

Postby CDDRodrigo » 2009 Jan 22, 10:19

He is, the only thing he does in the whole game is shielding the ball and shooting.
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Re: Borges

Postby rafzin » 2009 Jan 22, 20:07

balance 85 is very high maybe 81~82 and star in *POSITIONING
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Re: Borges

Postby CDDRodrigo » 2009 Jan 22, 20:25

Have you guys watched a full game of him? Just because he is skinny doesn't mean he is weak...

The only thing he does is shield the ball.
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Re: Borges

Postby rafzin » 2009 Jan 22, 20:52

CDDRodrigo wrote:Have you guys watched a full game of him? Just because he is skinny doesn't mean he is weak...

The only thing he does is shield the ball.

Yes i watch all brasileirão games of spfc and watch the games of the 2007 brasileirão
Disagree with the balance 85
Compare Borges with Kleber of Palmeiras
how is more strong?
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Re: Borges

Postby CDDRodrigo » 2009 Jan 22, 22:14

Both are the type of short but strong guys. If 85 is TOO MUCH, 84 at least.
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Re: Borges

Postby PMC » 2009 Jan 22, 22:17

hes small as hell... even with 82 he'll be very strong for brazilian standards but I don't know him really
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Re: Borges

Postby rafzin » 2009 Jan 22, 23:06

Sorry but 84 is much
For me Kleber is 82 and no have other player of the type short/strong in the brazil
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Re: Borges

Postby rotchild » 2009 Jan 23, 18:08

I don't think it's too much, IMHO... I think 83 would be spot on, and that is, WITH the *Post Player star... as CDDRodrigo said, is what Borges does mostly during a game: shield the ball from the defender (any defender), with his back turned to the goal, and dish a pass to a running teammate, or shoot it himself. So he needs the star, 'cause when playing against the CPU, despite having a decent (but still unrealistic) BB value, he will not perform the moves he does in real life, without the *Post Player star, that is. Kléber has a high mentality, and also a good balance for his small size (I believe he is smaller than Borges, not sure how much smaller, though...) but he tends to fall down a lot and keep complaining for a foul, so don't compare the two, as they are completely different type of players. I watch every Borges game. He's not only underrated in that aspect (Body Balance), but in others as well... Aggression for example: 80 is just absurd (as it is for Washington). Both have been scoring goals in bunches for the past 2 or 3 years, both rarely leave the penalty box, and both have only 80 for aggression... a joke, if you ask me. Should at least be 85 - 86... and not just for Borges.

He is not making a great championship. He made 3 great championships these past seasons, and here's 2 compilations of his goals.

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=7AcjzEzr1cg

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=F_lREovLbfQ

Not sure about the *Positioning star...

Also not sure if deserves the *Scoring star, instead of the 1-1 scoring, although he is really good on 1-1 with opposing keepers (again, check videos).

P.S. PMC, can you please change topic title to "Humberlito BORGES Teixeira"? ;)
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Re: Borges

Postby CDDRodrigo » 2009 Jan 23, 22:02

Agree with BB 83, Agr 86 and Post Player.
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Re: Humberlito BORGES Teixeira

Postby PMC » 2009 Jan 23, 23:39

I think the reason some guy aren't rated adequately is because you guys are very sporadic lately :(
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Re: Humberlito BORGES Teixeira

Postby CDDRodrigo » 2009 Jan 24, 00:10

PMC wrote:I think the reason some guy aren't rated adequately is because you guys are very sporadic lately :(


Opinions are very different :)
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Re: Humberlito BORGES Teixeira

Postby PMC » 2009 Jan 24, 00:11

well that's what discussions are here for... I think you all agree that he needs an overhaul and you're going into the right direction but you just need to nail down the ideal stats for him ;)
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Re: Humberlito BORGES Teixeira

Postby CDDRodrigo » 2009 Jan 24, 01:30

For me, even 86 BB would do... but the general opinion is 83. So:

Body Balance: 83
Aggression: 86
*Post Player
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Re: Humberlito BORGES Teixeira

Postby rotchild » 2009 Jan 24, 03:54

Well, IMO what happens is that are too many new Brazilian users here lately, and besides the fact that not many of them know how the stats work, most of them are biased towards their team, and by consequence, against their team rivals (I'm not saying that's the case with this particular player, just in general).

Anyway, I agree with the stats on Rodrigo's last post.
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Re: Humberlito BORGES Teixeira

Postby bff » 2009 Feb 02, 23:19

i agree with cddrodrigo's suggestions, i couldn't believe this guy with less than 83 of BB. it will be fine now.
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Re: Humberlito BORGES Teixeira

Postby PMC » 2009 Feb 02, 23:36

okay with BB: 83... anything else that you all agree on?
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