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Olcan Adın, Akhisarspor

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 15, 12:28


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Re: OLCAN Adin

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Re: Olcan Adın

Postby A-SK » 2009 Dec 10, 02:54

First post is very underrated. Olcan was actually one of my most favourite youth players during his time at fenebahce. He was renowned for his flair, workrate, skill, agility and audacious passing. He had alot of confidence on the ball and was equally as good at holding up the ball. He could easily molded into the Turkish Xavi and I'm not being biased! He was amazing to watch! Since leaving the club, he's become far more of an attacking player. He seems to have left the style of holding mid and addapted a more Musa Aydın-esque style of play. At the moment, he's young and doesn't really be playing for the future, simply the present. He doesn't have the attitude or the team bond to play for the future. First thing that needs to change is his attack defence ratio. This kid started his career off as a defensive holding midfielder and box-to-box holding mifielder. His actual position is defensive midfielder, followed by central midfielder. He might of changed to an attacking player, but attacking midfielder was never a position he excelled in. He's obviously being test on the flanks due to his dominant foot. He doesn't actually look that comfortable on the flanks. His style of play is based along the *Centre of the pitch. His main weaknesses are his physical strength, fitness and condition. He just generally lacks in those departments. At the moment, he's nothing more than a young talent wasting his career by not working on his faults. My version would something like....

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Re: Olcan Adın

Postby general suvorov » 2009 Dec 29, 20:30

done! ;)
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Re: Olcan Adın

Postby A-SK » 2010 Feb 13, 20:30

LPS seriously needs to be raised. Practically all his crosses today were hit with some venom. Should be raised to something like 83. The BJK defenders seemed to struggle to deal with his crosses. LPA could also be raised to something like 77. They were hit and miss, but they weren't poor.
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Re: Olcan Adın

Postby general suvorov » 2010 Feb 16, 08:40

A-SK wrote:LPS seriously needs to be raised. Practically all his crosses today were hit with some venom. Should be raised to something like 83. The BJK defenders seemed to struggle to deal with his crosses. LPA could also be raised to something like 77. They were hit and miss, but they weren't poor.


agree, great talent for Antep big loss for FB. Besides balance can be 74 or 75
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Re: Olcan Adın

Postby A-SK » 2010 Feb 18, 03:29

i think cm needs to be swapped around with am. his defence should also be dropped to low 50s rather than mid 60s. he's become really attack minded since leaving fenerbahce. he doesn't really chase people down or track back too much. he generally goes deep to start up a counter. for him, there's really no rush with defending so maybe that should also be dropped to 58. he isn't an established fullback, he doesn't defend well as central midfielder and he's only slightly above average for a winger. as an attacking midfielder, he's almost entirely focused on attack. defensively speaking, i don't rate him higher than kerim zengin. he isn't an underdeveloped fullback, he simply isn't one.
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Re: Olcan Adın

Postby general suvorov » 2010 Feb 20, 20:12

A-SK wrote: his defence should also be dropped to low 50s rather than mid 60s.


A-SK wrote: there's really no rush with defending so maybe that should also be dropped to 58


58 doesn't seem to me a value in low 50s.

To me Olcan was always an AM and his att-def ratio should be compared with Bilal Kısa, Tita and Gürhan Gürsoy. Persoanlly thinking using him as a RB was even worse idea than using Caner Erkin as LB. Olcan doesn't perform his defenssive duties like Caner who has 58 defence but he definetly defends more than above mentioned players. For that reason I think 53 or 54 would be better choice for his defence.

His positions should be: AM*, SM CM (SB optional)

Attack: 73, I point less than Bilal Kısa (whose defense may also be slightly underrated) I think it's fair
Defence: 53/54
Balance: 75, he's not weaker than Tabata or Giovani
Long Pass Accuracy: 77/78
Long Pass Speed: 83
Free Kick Accuracy: 72

is what I suggest for him
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Re: Olcan Adın

Postby Kanouté » 2010 Feb 20, 21:06

Agree with the values, suvorov.
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Re: Olcan Adın

Postby A-SK » 2010 Feb 21, 03:48

54/53 does no justice to someone who can be opted in a very defensive position. at the end of the day, olcan definitely defends more than tita. the comparison isn't even valid because the two players are completely different, however way you look at it. during his time at fenerbahce, he frequently chased back people into his own half. that might have been a case of mentality, but i genuinely rate him quite higher than the suggested values. caner is a bad defender but he can also play as fullback so we agreed to raise his defence to 58. olcan is an even worse defender so why should we have him considerably lower than caner when caner isn't even a defensive minded or even a defensively capable winger. duda was raised to 55 because of the fact that he was able to play as fullback for Portugal, but prior to that, he was considered to be a very attack minded player. i think it's safe that he should be downgraded to similar figure rather than 54 because he genuinely defends more than lennon from tottenham.
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Re: Olcan Adın

Postby A-SK » 2010 Apr 02, 01:38

I think his agility could be raised to something like 85. he's a very wriggly player, but is also an easily excitable one. he seems very sloppy when recieiving passes. i think it's a case of both his response and his first touch. both seem to be on/off. i think his first touch does let him down on some occasions. technique could easily be lowered to 79.
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Re: Olcan Adın

Postby general suvorov » 2010 Apr 24, 10:16

A-SK wrote:I think his agility could be raised to something like 85. he's a very wriggly player, but is also an easily excitable one. he seems very sloppy when recieiving passes. i think it's a case of both his response and his first touch. both seem to be on/off. i think his first touch does let him down on some occasions. technique could easily be lowered to 79.


I agree with your agility suggestion. To me, tech is okay but defence is a bit high. a value between 58-61 would be better value for him. Cuz current value would make him even better than Sabri. As a fullback I don't think Olcan did better job than Sabri.
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Re: OLCAN Adın

Postby general suvorov » 2010 Dec 22, 20:47

he's having a great season as AMF.
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Re: OLCAN Adın

Postby A-SK » 2010 Dec 30, 11:28

defence could possibly be lowered a little bit. he's an unorthodox fullback and doesn't really defend to a respectable level. 60 max.
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Re: OLCAN Adın

Postby general suvorov » 2011 Feb 05, 11:47

my new set for Olcan. Explanations are to come

Position: AMF*, SMF, CMF, SB (optional)
Nationality: Turkish _tur
Age: 25 (SEP-30-1985)

Foot: L
Side: L

Length: 172
Weight: 75

Attack: 75
Defence: 61
Balance: 77
Stamina: 82
Top Speed: 82
Acceleration: 81
Response: 79
Agility: 85
Dribble Accuracy: 82
Dribble Speed: 82
Short Pass Accuracy: 79
Short Pass Speed: 79
Long Pass Accuracy: 80
Long Pass Speed: 79
Shot Accuracy: 74
Shot Power: 82
Shot Technique: 76
Free Kick Accuracy: 73
Curving: 78
Header: 77
Jump: 83
Technique: 83
Aggression: 84
Mentality: 80
GK Skills: 50
Team Work: 79

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Form: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 3

PLAYER INDEX:
P03 - Trickster
P04 - Darting Run
S01 - Marauding
S02 - Passer
S20 - Flicking Skills
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Re: OLCAN Adın

Postby A-SK » 2011 May 17, 00:58

*Defence should be 60 max. He doesn't deserve to be on par with Marcelo.
*Response should definitely be a yellow figure. He's practically a free roaming midfielder who scores the majority of his goals like a poacher. Very similar to Siem De Jong. Olcan's most impressive attribute as an attacker is definitely his instincts. Response should be something like 82.
*Shot power should really be 84. Remember this goal?
*His teamwork shouldn't be that high. Olcan is a great talent, but his vision or capacity as a *Passer isn't on the same level as Martens. Teamwork should be 78 max. for now ;)
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Re: OLCAN Adın

Postby ulteruser184 » 2011 May 29, 19:41

i think he is one of the agily players of Super LIg Agility must be raised to 88
and about his stamina. He played hard all 90 minutes His DS must be raised to 83
TS 81
Accel 84 he has great accel.
Agility 88
Stamina 85
DS 83
Tech 82
Aggression 78
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Re: OLCAN Adın

Postby general suvorov » 2011 Jun 10, 08:55

I think Ali's suggestions seems fine to me. in addition, ulteruser184's stamina suggerstions suits well. Olcan played in 41 games scored 14 goals and made 4 assists. melo also shared a set of Olcan which is actually pretty interesting. One thing we which shall not be overlooked is Olcan's jumping skills which is actually very good for a player in his size. working on new set.
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Re: OLCAN Adın

Postby A-SK » 2011 Jun 10, 14:45

I don't agree to his stamina being raised that much. His stamina and work ethic was his main problem.
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Re: OLCAN Adın

Postby ulteruser184 » 2011 Jun 14, 18:05

A-SK wrote:I don't agree to his stamina being raised that much. His stamina and work ethic was his main problem.

I do not agree with you. He fight even in 80"s

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