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Diego Lugano

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 15, 11:19

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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby A-SK » 2008 Dec 20, 12:39

You're right, it's really a pity that his game has got this slight decline. Everyone in Brazil have risked that by now (and by any means, no disrespect to Fener or the Turkish League, on the opposite. I think Fener did a great CL last year, and believe me when I say I was rooting for them ;) ) he would be playing in a top class Serie A team or in the Premiership...

He's obviously better than the likes of Senderos, or Knezevic, or Rivas, or Loria for example. But I guess it's way better to be an uncontested starter for Fener, than to be an eternal benchwarmer, like those other guys.

I watched EVERY SINGLE (I really mean it) home game he played for São Paulo FC, from the time he was acquired by the then president Marcelo Portugal Gouvêia himself (without consulting any of his directors or the coach at the time, hence receiving the nickname "The President's Center Back") in 2004, until his departure in 2006. He is easily one of the greatest and most important CB's in the history of SPFC and is until this day idolized by all of the club's fans and the ultras. Had a rough time at his beginning, but in 2005 and 2006, he was a key player in all the trophys SPFC raised in those 2 years: Regional title, Libertadores Cup, FIFA World Club Cup (All 3 in 2005) and Brazilian Championship (2006).

His mentality WAS his greatest strength. Easily 94-95. Not anymore though. AND it must be said that, at those times, he played on a 3-5-2 scheme, where he was the middle CB. So he got more "help" than he gets today. I think his stats are pretty accurate, I would just add a single or a couple of points to these stats:

Defense - 86
Balance - 88
Stamina - 87
Response - 85
Header - 86 (strong and precise headers, scored a lot of those)

Maybe his passing skills are a just a little bit overrated. 1-2 points in each, IMO

And maybe lower his consistency down to 5, due to his latest slump. Had an awful away game against Bolivia for the WC Qualifiers on the last weeks, but scored a goal against Argentina so... what do you think?


I'm fine with most of these changes but I'd like to say something about his passing, defence, stamina and response.

Defence: He really is the best CB we have but he does have a tendancy to make stupid mistakes. He like to drift out of positionmore often than Yasin, Can and Edu. He's very clumsy and like to "swallow" people whole as he tries to intercept the ball.

Stamina: I want to say something but I have to go for now :D I'll leave a comment later

Response: Lugano's timing does let him down sometimes but he's reflexes from set pieces is admirable. He isn't on the same wavelength as Alex but he isn't far behind.

How about:
Alex-85
Lugano-84

Passing: His ground passes are fairly conservative but aren't erratic. His crossing is actually very good and has even turnt provider on numerous occassions. He really can cross very accurately with plenty of power behind it aswell.

The rest is all good for me :)
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 20, 13:00

I haven't seen him for a while so i cant tell how well he does in Turkey currently... but remembering the past seasons I can't really disagree with the suggestions... I guess I'll have to think about it
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby Omer » 2008 Dec 20, 16:57

acc should be downgraded when he is forward he cant come back quickly.
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby A-SK » 2008 Dec 20, 19:07

I understand what you're saying but that's all about top speed, not acceleration ;) I could downgrade his TS because he doesn't seem faster than Edu on the straights.
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby marteen88 » 2009 Mar 14, 19:24

Attack: 65
Balance: 88
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby Paddy » 2009 Mar 14, 20:39

marteen88 wrote:Attack: 65
Balance: 88

Why?
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby PMC » 2009 Mar 14, 20:42

I'm personally leaning towards def. 85 from what I've seen of him generally
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby A-SK » 2009 Mar 15, 02:48

His attack should be in the high 60s, this guy is scoring more goals than Guiza :lol:
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby Zeta » 2009 Mar 17, 22:53

Although i am also thrilled by his recent goals, i don't think his attacking ability is related to his goals.

His heading, jumping and response are already at good numbers and i believe those stats are responsible for his recent form, along with his best stat: mentality.

otherwise, i don't think he should be given attacking more then a normal centre-back since he only goes to opponent's goal area when there's a corner or free kick.
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby PMC » 2009 Mar 18, 00:03

A-SK wrote:His attack should be in the high 60s, this guy is scoring more goals than Guiza :lol:



if he scores many from corners and setpieces maybe consider *positioning... the problem of a high att. rating is that he would be more intelligent attacking and that could be from open play too
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby A-SK » 2009 Apr 05, 17:55

Lugano deserves atleast 66, simple as. He score goals for fun in the league. He's more threatening from set pieces than anyone else.
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby rapsar » 2009 Apr 10, 17:05

I think he should have *positioning star.Because he scored many goals this season.
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby PMC » 2009 Apr 10, 17:16

A-SK wrote:Lugano deserves atleast 66, simple as. He score goals for fun in the league. He's more threatening from set pieces than anyone else.



66 only because of setpiece goals isn't warranted imo. Consider *positioning in this case... 66 makes him too much of an intelligent attacker ingame too... high 60s for CBs should be for players that effectively contribute to the attacking game of a team in plays.
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby A-SK » 2009 Apr 10, 19:17

I remember giving Luciano *Positioning and some twat gave me an ear bashing :D Anyways, I'm fine with giving Lugano the star but i would also like to remind some of you that Lugano is also a very good crosser for a CB. Keep that in mind and decide whether he deserves the star or a raise in attack ;)
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby PMC » 2009 Jun 15, 17:44

I still think his defence is underrated
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby A-SK » 2009 Jun 15, 20:38

I don't think so. Lugano is a good defender, not a brilliant one.
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby tamaguchi_japa » 2009 Aug 15, 05:08

heard some about he in lazio, probably could be true ;)
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Aug 16, 18:58

Damn!! I heard that Fiorentina and other Serie A teams were in the running. Congrats Ali 8-)
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Re: Diego LUGANO

Postby A-SK » 2009 Aug 16, 19:03

I'm working on an update for Bilica and will shortly be posting an update for this guy aswell. Congrats to fenerbahce for persuading him, not me :D

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