Marcel Desailly | 1993-1994 | 1998-1999

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Marcel Desailly | 1993-1994 | 1998-1999

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 14, 02:14

- 1993-1994:

Nickname: "The Rock" ("le Roc") | "The Kandoo" ("le Handoo") | "Jupiter"

Club: AC Milan



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- 1998-1999:

Nickname: "The Rock" ("le Roc") | "The Kandoo" ("le Handoo") | "Jupiter"



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Desailly

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Desailly

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http://stamford-bridge.com/player.php?i ... ame=Marcel

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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1993-1994

Postby Classical » 2009 Oct 18, 11:57

Name: Marcel Desailly

Nickname: "The Rock" ("le Roc") | "The Kandoo" ("le Handoo") | "Jupiter"

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Club: AC Milan
Number: 8
Positions: *DMF, CMF, CB
Nationality: French/Ghanaian _fra _gha
Age: 24-25 (07/09/1968)
Era: 1993/1994

Foot: R
Side: B

Height: 185 cm
Weight: 82 kg

Attack: 73
Defence: 80
Balance: 97
Stamina: 92
Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 82
Response: 88
Agility: 81
Dribble Accuracy: 77
Dribble Speed: 79
Short Pass Accuracy: 76
Short Pass Speed: 80
Long Pass Accuracy: 72
Long Pass Speed: 75
Shot Accuracy: 70
Shot Power: 84
Shot Technique: 70
Free Kick Accuracy: 64
Curling: 69
Header: 86
Jump: 93
Technique: 80
Aggression: 75
Mentality/Tenacity: 88
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 86

Injury Tolerance: B
Form/Condition/Fitness: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 4
Consistency: 7
Growth type: Standard/Lasting

CARDS:
P04: Anchor Man
P14: Enforcer
S08: Sliding Tackle
S09: Covering

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
*Sliding
*Covering

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Defence Minded


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Marcel Desailly (born September 7, 1968 in Accra, Ghana as Abby Odenkey) is a former French footballer and star of the France national football team squad, with whom he won the 1998 FIFA World Cup and Euro 2000. He also enjoyed a distinguished career at club level with several major European clubs.
Club career

Born as Odenke Abbey to Ghanaian parents, Marcel had his name changed when his mother married the head of the French Consulate in Accra who adopted all the children (the former professional footballer Seth Adonkor, seven years his elder, was a half-brother of his). He arrived in France as a four-year-old and, following Adonkor's lead, began his career at FC Nantes, turning professional in 1986, two years after his half-brother had died in a car accident. In 1992, he moved to Olympique de Marseille, and won the UEFA Champions League the following year. In 1994, while a member of A.C. Milan, he again won the Cup (scoring in the final himself), being the first player to win the Cup in consecutive seasons with different clubs. During his time in Milan he won two Italian league titles, in 1994 and 1996. Although he prefers to be a defender[1], he also played midfield for some time.

Desailly then moved to the English club Chelsea in a £4.6m transfer[2], where he played centre-back until the end of the 2003–04 season. It was at Chelsea that Desailly formed a formidable partnership with Frank Leboeuf. After Euro 2004, he retired from international football as the all-time leader in appearances for France (116). Desailly's record has since been surpassed by fellow defender Lilian Thuram.

Desailly was snapped up by Qatari outfit Al-Gharafa in 2004. He was appointed as the club captain and under the French coach Bruno Metsu they won the Qatar League in 2005. He then joined Qatar S.C., leading them to second place in the league before retiring from professional football.

Desailly is considered one of the most accomplished players of the game and one of the best players of the past two decades, having won virtually every major team award. He is currently a Unicef ambassador to Ghana and is being mentioned as a possible candidate for the coaching position of Ghana's national team[3].

International career

Desailly made his international debut in 1993, but was not established as a first choice defender until 1996. He was an important part of the French team which won the 1998 FIFA World Cup, albeit being sent off in the final. Like other team members, he was made Chevalier (Knight) of the Légion d'honneur in 1998.[4][5] Two years later success continued, as France won Euro 2000. After the tournament, Desailly was made captain of the national team, following the retirement of Didier Deschamps. In 2001, he led France to victory in the Confederations Cup.

In April 2003, Desailly surpassed the record for the number of appearances for the French team, a number which eventually reached 116 when he announced his retirement from international football following Euro 2004. However, that record was broken during the 2006 World Cup by Lilian Thuram.


Following his transfer from Champion's winner Marseille in 1993, Marcel Desailly became the rock of Milan's midfield.

Concrete player always ready to burst into physical challenges allowed his other midfield companion - Demetrio Albertini -to enjoy some extra freedom. This partnership kind of resembles Pirlo and Gatusso, where Pirlo plays deeper rather being the technical one, leaving to Gatusso the chasing and covering mission. Desailly worked like this, with his immense stamina, strength and aerial abilities he could cover the whole center of the terrain.

Also, he regained some technical portfolio which allowed him to adventure, once in a while, in some forward moves. He was never just a stopper, he could participate in 1-2-3 touch passes in Milan's midfield and always with a great mental focus, a quality usually reserved for the great of the greats.

I chose this first season at Milan, where his midfield days were at his peek, culminating (obviously) on the 4th goal of the Champion's Cup against Barcelona. That goal summarizes Desailly as the high-level midfield player he was.

I've let some of the *CB Desailly and gave him some tweaks to adapt to *DMF position. Once again, for the ones willing to investigate this *DMF Desailly I believe the ´94 Champion's Cup Final is always a good match to start with.


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(Nice ad)


(That goal)


(First video of the 1994 final. From here you can find the others parts. Desailly has a fine game with that goal at the very end.)
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1998/1999

Postby Classical » 2009 Oct 18, 13:15

Hello:

I recently saw again the whole game of Barcelona vs Milan final.

Desailly was playing defensive mid and what I saw from him (the same from his Marseille days) was a force of nature in the midfield not only in sheer force but also in agility and stamina.

My question is if is worth to create another set of stats for his previous age or if shall we discuss this very set?

Thanks.

If that game is not that far from this Desailly, then I would suggest a nice raise in agility as well as dribble, mentality and probably short pass speed.
But I am not sure I would be capable of mantaining the def value, since he would be able to playe def mid with world class level.

So I state the big question again, shall we go for a new set or combine it in this one?
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1998-1999

Postby liverpoolun » 2009 Oct 18, 13:24

i think a new set is needed
The AC era Desailly is quite different from the Chelsea era when he played mainly as a CB
Please try to make a new set :mrgreen:
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1998-1999

Postby Tom » 2009 Oct 18, 13:27

Actually, the stats needed some changing. However, I haven't increased Mentality as his work-rate simply wasn't at the same level as his Milanese days and I haven't raised his SPS as Desailly would mostly provide soft, conservative passes at Chelsea.
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1998-1999

Postby Classical » 2009 Oct 18, 15:37

Fair enough, we can work later on a Milan set then.

Regarding these stats, when you say there is room for improvements, where do you think it would be fitable?

Is it agility as I have refered previsiously, or do you have any other particular stat in mind?
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1998-1999

Postby Classical » 2009 Oct 18, 16:10

Still regarding agility, for Milan days I would say it goes to 83, so probably the 80 here is not that far.

Anyway, I look forward to hear your feedback so we could discuss the appropriate course of action here :D
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1998-1999

Postby Tom » 2009 Oct 18, 16:13

The thing is, he did look nimble in his Chelsea days and this season in particular but he didn't look like he warranted an 83.

If you post your AC Milan set for Desailly then we can have both the Chelsea set and the Milan set in the first post. What do you think?
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1998-1999

Postby Classical » 2009 Oct 18, 16:25

Ok thank you, I will be very happy posting Milan days value.
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1998-1999

Postby p1rha » 2009 Oct 28, 16:14

This guy was a beast and one of the best CBs of his time, but even so i think some stats could come down in comparison with some actual players. The way i see it he was an intelegent CB, but what made him an outstanding player was his insane physical abilities.

Defence: 90 - On pair with current Ferdinand, one above Vidic, 2 above Terry

Balance: 96 - Not that 97 would be so far fetched, but i think he would be better with 1 point above Alex, 95 is the same as classic Drogba i think.

Acceleration: 78 - he is 30 by this time, and his accelaration was never something to shout home about. Surely faster than Blanc and quite good for a guy his size, but Thuram was the reference in terms of speed in that defence.

Response: 87 - Today we only have 3 CBs rated above or equal to 90 (Rio - 90, Nesta - 90 and Puyol - 91). I think he should sit 4 or 5 points below Puyol, Puyol is a reference in terms of quick reactions.

Jump: 86 - he didn't had such an outstanding jump. Decent, probably above average but what will make him win all aerial batles is his insane BB. I hope u take that into acount. ;) About his heading acuracy i don't remeber so well to give a number, but i think Blanc was a better header...

Technique: 78 - Chivu is at 83, Rio at 80 and R. Carvalho at 77. These 3 r references to me in terms of CBs with a good touch, even so i don't see him ahead of R. Carvalho. And if u want to play him as a DMF u'll have to comprimise something.
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1998-1999

Postby Plava Čigra » 2010 Feb 16, 16:28

Anybody agrees with p1rha here? If GoonerLover66 or Classical (or anybody else), don't have any objections, I'm thinking to update with proposed suggestions (maybe with a tweak or two to them)...
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1998-1999

Postby Fevernova » 2010 Feb 16, 17:08

Yeah, he looks too much of a Superman, do ur thing, Plava. ;)
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1998-1999

Postby Plava Čigra » 2010 Feb 17, 07:04

Updated to fit new format.

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I've inserted the most of the p1rha's values. Changes...

Defence: 92<90,
Balance: 97<96,
Top Speed: 81<80 (just felt that his TS should come down also),
Acceleration: 80<78,
Response: 91<88 (I think his game reading was pretty good, and I think 3 points gap between him and Puyol is enough; especially since 1 of those 3 points is in the orange area),
Jump: 90<87 - He still had pretty good leap... This isn't some great proof, it's just there to shows that even at age of nearly 30 he hasn't lost too much of his jumping abilities:

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Technique: 81<79 (I somehow think that he hadn't deteriorated too much from his Milan days in this segment... I would give him 80-81 for his Milan days).

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Now, I've also changed his Height and Weight from 187 cm and 88 kg to 185 cm and 82 kg. I think 88 kg is more suitable weight for his last season at Chelsea. I'm relying on this source for Height (variations mostly goes between 183 and 185 cm, but he looks taller then Thuram):

http://stamford-bridge.com/player.php?i ... ame=Marcel

Also, he doesn't look 187 cm tall in pictures.

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Removed SB from his positions. I only remember that he was used as CB and occasionally as DMF.
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1998-1999

Postby Classical » 2010 Feb 17, 12:33

When the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Eric Cantona
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1998-1999

Postby Plava Čigra » 2010 Feb 17, 12:53

Yes, I've also found 5-6 links (plus the sites you already mentioned), but most of them say Height: 185 cm and Weight: 82 kg (although only 1 or 2 combine those two data). I've showed you the pictures above, so I think Height: 185 cm and Weight: 82 kg, looks closest to reality (as I said he might gain some weight in his final two seasons).
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1998-1999

Postby Classical » 2010 Feb 17, 12:58

Yes let's opt for the balanced option.

185cms
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1993-1994 & 1998-1999

Postby Brezza » 2010 Mar 21, 16:24

Ive added Classical's DM era Deasilly . I'm now allowing different era's for players but they will have to be posted in already existing threads.
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1993-1994 & 1998-1999

Postby BigStu » 2010 Mar 21, 17:24

oh good, theres a couple of players eras that I may post up
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1993-1994 & 1998-1999

Postby Classical » 2010 Mar 22, 23:56

YES!
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Re: Marcel DESAILLY | 1993-1994 & 1998-1999

Postby Yazid » 2012 Nov 18, 19:53

Desailly seems a bit too good here, stronger than stam, defence as high as prime carvalho and heading and jump equal to prime terry. With these stats he is the best defender that has ever graced the EPL which I disagree with. Would suggest 91 Def equal with campbell, 95 Balance equal with stam and 89 heading.

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