Gary Pallister | 1992-1993


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Gary Pallister | 1992-1993

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 13, 22:11

Club: Manchester United



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Gary Pallister possessed all the attributes of a superb center-back. He had excellent aerial ability and domination,he had pace as quick as any striker and he had good ball control (especially for someone so tall). For nearly six years his partnership with Steve Bruce became almost legendary,a defensive duo United may never be able to better,such was the communication and understanding between the two at the heart of United's defence.He was Britain's most expensive defender at one time, £2.3 million and he proved to be a gem worth every penny.

Ideed, Pally became a truly majestic, all-round central defender, a formidable rock on which United's defence was built upon until the late 1990s. In the air he was well- nigh impregnable, his massive presence subduing attackers psychologically as well as physically; on the ground he controlled the ball deftly with either foot, passing it accurately and intelligently, and was capable of carrying it past opponents with the imperious manner of a latter-day Alan Hansen.

Although it was his excellent defensive displays that helped Manchester United to the league title along with Steve Bruce at the heart of the defence, forming one of the best central defensive partneships in the club's history, in the 1992-93 season, he scored a memorable goal in the final home game of the season against Blackburn Rovers. Into stoppage time, with his team winning 2-1, he stepped up to drive a free-kick into the bottom corner from the edge of the penalty area. It was his first goal of the season and just about summed up an incredible season for Manchester United.

The final season Pallister played for Manchester United was the 1997-98 season in which Manchester United came second in the league table, losing by one point to Arsenal.

During his time at Manchester United, Pallister won three FA Cups, four Premier League titles, one League Cup and one Cup Winners' Cup.

Transferred back to Middlesbrough in July 1998 (his departure from Old Trafford at least partly prompted by United's acquisition of Jaap Stam), he scored one goal in 55 League appearances, as well as appearing in two FA Cup matches and four League Cup matches.

His final playing season, in which Middlesbrough finished 14th in the table, was season 2000-01.


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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby as_10 » 2009 Jan 10, 19:04

could you add me to the credits please? :oops:
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby choccy » 2009 Jan 10, 22:35

I think his TS is underrated, when he got going he was actually quite fast for a guy his size. IMO he shares a lot of Rio's characteristics, good job with the stats lads, they reflect him well.

Anyway, TS 81?
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby Brezza » 2009 Jan 19, 00:16

Agreed he was no slouch and pretty quick for a big lad. Updated.
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby Sekularac » 2009 Aug 14, 00:14

The same with Gary. He wore jersey with number 6. Now I have a problem with my Manchester United all stars(Edwards, Buchan, Pallister for number 6).
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby CDDRodrigo » 2009 Aug 14, 18:15

Sekularac wrote:The same with Gary. He wore jersey with number 6. Now I have a problem with my Manchester United all stars(Edwards, Buchan, Pallister for number 6).
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Do like like this: Edwards 6, Buchan 16, Pallister 26 hehe
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby Brezza » 2009 Aug 14, 18:55

Im pretty sure he was number 5 for Man utd . Those are pictures of him in his middlesbrough kit :P
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby Sekularac » 2009 Aug 14, 23:39

http://www.mfc.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/c8/4b/0,,1~2968520,00.jpg
http://www.mfc.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/11/af/0,,1~3780369,00.jpg

:lol: Stupid me, didn't know that MFC stands for Middlesbrough football club :lol: .
If I wrote it in SERBIAN it would be MFK which means Midlsbro Fudbalski Klub, so you would be :? too. :P

I just wonder then, which No. to give to Ronny Johnsen :?:
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby p1rha » 2009 Aug 20, 15:12

U can have 2 or more players with the same number if u use the editor ;)
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby Sekularac » 2009 Aug 20, 15:57

p1rha wrote:U can have 2 or more players with the same number if u use the editor ;)


Really :?: You talk about PC version? I wonder if it works for PS2. I know that it's possible to do it in PES editor, but I've never tried it fearing that it's gonna screw up my OF when I play it.
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby p1rha » 2009 Aug 21, 13:17

Sekularac wrote:
p1rha wrote:U can have 2 or more players with the same number if u use the editor ;)


Really :?: You talk about PC version? I wonder if it works for PS2. I know that it's possible to do it in PES editor, but I've never tried it fearing that it's gonna screw up my OF when I play it.


i'm talking about Wild's editor for Xbox and PC, and it din't screw mine. eitherway, one word for u: "backup" ;)

Oh, and his speed and technical abilities are oberated !!! Get a grip guys, Palister, a technical gifted defender? What comes next, a donkey, diving in a pool? (saw it yesterday btw :lol: )
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby SpongeBob » 2010 Jan 15, 07:52

Don't you think his HEA and JUM are underrated. He was one of the best CBs in this. If Jack Charlton is on 94 than Gary surely
needs to be on a pair with him,at least so.
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby Jez » 2010 Jan 15, 10:24

94 would be an extreme value to be honest. In fairness, I reckon Jack Charlton is probably a tad overdone with that value. I wouldnt look too closely at the stats of other classics when making suggestions anyway, try look at modern day ladders which are far more realistic ;)
86 is a good value, although 87 wouldn't be a crime. I'll probably give him and all my other stats an overall update sometime over the weekend :)
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby as_10 » 2010 Jan 15, 16:40

as_10 wrote:could you add me to the credits please? :oops:
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C'mon, I want my piece of glory! :oops:
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby patrick88 » 2010 Feb 04, 10:20

was interested to see his aggression at 2 points less than steve bruce :o

ferguson always thought that pallister was the better defender at bringing the ball out of defence and starting moves, while bruce was the defensive stalwart

perhaps it's because bruce scored those 2 vital goals but still ...
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby Phil » 2010 Oct 31, 21:33

Not that it changes anything about his stats but I read that Alex Ferguson cited Pallister as the fastest player he's ever had over 100m :o ,granted footballers very rarely run more than 25 metres, it was still quite shocking to me that he was faster than the likes of Giggs, Kanchelskis and Ronaldo even over a long distance.

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Olympic Games champion Usain Bolt has put Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson on the spot about the fastest player at Old Trafford.

He asked Sir Alex: “Who is the quickest player you’ve worked with?

Sir Alex told the club’s official magazine Inside United – celebrating its 200th anniversary: “We’ve had a lot of quick players here. If you’re talking over certain distances, then Gary Pallister would have taken some beating in a sprint.

“I think he was the quickest in the 100 metres. But speed in football isn’t about running 100 metres on a football pitch. So you’ve also got to consider Kanchelskis, Ronaldo, Giggs, Cole, Paul Parker - he was very, very quick - Anderson, Ferdinand, Lee Sharpe as a young kid was quick before he started to get bigger.

“Paul Ince was very quick. So that group of players would be in it, but over 100 metres, Pallister would have beaten any of them. In a football sense, I’d say Kanchelskis and Giggs, particularly when he was younger.”
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby Brezza » 2011 Apr 02, 15:57

That's certainly surprising but 100m can be a marathon for a footballer. I actually read the other day that in Denis Bergkamp was the fastest at Arsenal 100m with Ljungberg 2nd and Henry 3rd :shock: . I also read an interview with Sol Campbell ages ago when he was was talking about keeping pace of modern strikers. Sol said Micheal Owen and himself had a 100m race in England Training once, over the first 20-25m Owen caned him but over 100m Sol had the power to catch him and it was a pretty even race.

However Watching more footage from MUTV from the 1993/1994 season review, Pally was pretty fucking rapid once he got going, id say he was just as quick as Stam but slightly under Ronney Johnsen. The problem is that he was so slow on the turn.

Also Choccy is completely right with what he said in the Steve Bruce thread that Pally was the equivalent of Rio and Bruce the equivalent of Vidic. Pally should certainly above Bruce in Dribb Acc, he had good ball control to take that ball out of defence, maybe not quite at Rio's level but the 75 that Bruce incorrectly has should be O.K

Balance could probably be dropped as well he was a rock but not quite the same level as Bruce/vidic more level with Rio and Pique on 88 taking his height into account, also anything higher might make him too overpowered if speed is to be increased as well.

I see both Bruce and Pally have high teamwork to represent their brilliant communication and understanding between the two, I think Bruce was the more vocal of the two though, Im not sure If Gary was as Vocal as Rio for instance. Although his distribution was impressive the high teamwork passing stats might make him a tad too playmakerish.

He did have ccasional tendency to lose concentration in matched as well abit like Rio

He should have Injury Tolerance A like Bruce. One of the key things which made them such an effective partnership was that they never got Injured.

Edit, Updated:

Attack: 55>62
Balance: 91>88
Stamina: 87>85
Top Speed: 81>85
Acceleration: 77>79
Dribble accuary: 74>75
Header: 86>88
Technique: 78>80
Agression: 66>75
Mentality: 85>82
Teamwork: 88>85
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby jurgens » 2012 Oct 11, 10:38

His acceleration and agility were fucken awful. And his header always looks much more dangerous than this, easy orange I'd say. His def looks a good bit over-rated, seems to have problems all the time with players that he fails to cleanly disposses.
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby REAL_MADRID » 2012 Oct 11, 15:26

This set should be adapted to new standards. Agree with jurgens in lowering Agility and Acc. But I don't think his Def should come down, he was probably one of the 3 best CB in Premier League during 90s. Im also not very sure about his TS value, he was quite fast in long distances, but I see the 85 value a bit exaggerated, but after reading Phil's comment probably it is deserved. Other stat than can be revised his BB, I'm not sure of giving him a orange value, but at least I would put him in 89. IMO the header value doesn't need to come up to 90, he is now in 88, that is a top class value. I even would low it by 2 points at least. Steve Bruce (89 header) was much better header than Pallister.
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Re: Gary PALLISTER | 1992-1993

Postby jurgens » 2012 Oct 11, 22:58

Top 3 :shock: ? I doubht hes even in englands top 3 of the 90's. Really over-rated player.

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