Iván Zamorano | 1992-1996


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Iván Zamorano | 1992-1996

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 13, 17:17

Nickname: "Bam Bam" | "Iván el Terrible" ("Ivan the Terrible")

Club: Real Madrid

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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1994-1997

Postby CDDRodrigo » 2009 Mar 22, 11:25

Was it really 1 plus 8? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1994-1997

Postby Nrby » 2009 Mar 22, 12:02

Zamorano wore the number 9 jersey for Internazionale until a sponsorship deal with Nike saw Ronaldo given the traditional strikers' number. When this happened, they gave him the number 18 jersey, but Zamorano added a plus (+) sign between the two numbers (actually, 1+8=9).
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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1994-1997

Postby Alcohomicide » 2009 Mar 22, 12:16

Ronaldo's transfer to Inter was one of the most disgusting moments in World Football.
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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1994-1997

Postby bodhisattva » 2009 Mar 23, 07:46

my hero :)
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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1994-1997

Postby Rfuna » 2009 Apr 11, 02:17

Alcohomicide wrote:Ronaldo's transfer to Inter was one of the most disgusting moments in World Football.

:o What! If it weren't for that, I wouldn't have followed Inter and eventually become the Inter fan I am today. Fzora Inter. Now back to the stats... these are well done, you've reflected bam bam aka 1+8=9 ( :lol: ) perfectly. My only gripe would be SA and scoring*, he was far from top goal scorer for us. He's like Tevez actually, or Tevez like him :lol: but what a great player. You should've made these stats for 1996-99 for when he was with Inter, I don't think too many Real Madrid fans give a shit about him.

Having watched the video of his time real madrid (28 goals :shock: ), to me his finishing pales in comparison to Torres of last season, and he's at a 85. Not to mention that half of his goals were headers. I think 84 for SA, remove scoring* and postioning* (especially with the high attack value), not sure about center* :? . Lower ST (unless he's ever scored one of those totti chips from outside the area). TW should really be higher, 84/85 perhaps.

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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1994-1997

Postby Ajacied_Breda1 » 2009 Apr 12, 12:27

Alcohomicide wrote:Ronaldo's transfer to Inter was one of the most disgusting moments in World Football.


Yeah, I bet it was. :roll:

When that transfer happened, the best player in the world simply moved to the best league in the world at the time. I've never seen a player dominate Serie A like Ronaldo did.

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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1994-1997

Postby Classical » 2009 Oct 10, 08:50

I think his peek was at Madrid. Are these stats for that period as well? And I know there is an Inter discussion going here but if these stats are for his prime he could get a photo from Madrid, I would say.
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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1994-1997

Postby Ace » 2009 Oct 10, 09:52

a truly warrior, a truly hero.


Rfuna wrote: :o What! If it weren't for that, I wouldn't have followed Inter and eventually become the Inter fan I am today.

me too :D
Classical wrote:I think his peek was at Madrid. Are these stats for that period as well? And I know there is an Inter discussion going here but if these stats are for his prime he could get a photo from Madrid, I would say.

I think the image is about Inter times to show his 1+8 ;)
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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1994-1997

Postby Plava Čigra » 2009 Oct 10, 09:54

Classical wrote:I think his peek was at Madrid. Are these stats for that period as well? And I know there is an Inter discussion going here but if these stats are for his prime he could get a photo from Madrid, I would say.


Club: Real Madrid & Inter Milan
Number: 9 (1+8)
Position: *CF
Nationality:Chilean
Era: 1994-1997


Yes, I think they are. He played in Real during 1994-1996 period.

Here's a picture from his Real era:

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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1994-1997

Postby The KruX » 2009 Nov 02, 21:12

I disagree with some numbers...
DA, for me could be a 78 value, Zamorano was never a very good dribbler, he was tenacious, but not a dribbler...
SP could be an 82, he was not a hard hitter, but his shots had good accuracy, maybe SA 87.
TEC is another point of interest, I think Salas had better Tec than Iván did, so I guess an 82 could be better.
ST could be a little higher, about 87.
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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1994-1997

Postby Rated-R » 2009 Nov 02, 21:18

I believe that this is the Matador underrated in some respects, but I agree with your shoting stats and DA, personally believe their technique should fall to 83 - 84
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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1994-1997

Postby The KruX » 2009 Nov 02, 21:26

Ok, good then...I agree with dropping a few points his TEC...Iván was a very good finisher but not very skillfull technically...

El Matador should have a high TEC value, the way he controlled the ball, before shooting or before making a play was magnificent, he was very intelligent and was blessed with his TEC...
I already posted about him in his thread :) Let´s take a look and tell what do you think...
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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1994-1997

Postby MauR0X » 2009 Dec 27, 17:00

Great stats, but I think the Attack is underrated. He was the "Pichichi" (top scorer of the league) in 1994 with Real Madrid.
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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1992-1996

Postby Brezza » 2010 Jun 28, 19:31

Updated with a few suggestions in the thread.

-Changed era to 1992-1996 ( Real Madrid Era only ) I believe a new set should be made for his Inter era, where things like his finishing could go down a notch but his linkup play was better.

-Updated to new Format and added cards

-Deleted some spam posts

-Abilities update:
Stamina: 84; Top Speed: 82; Acceleration: 83; Agility: 85; Dribble Accuracy: 78; Dribble Speed: 80; Shot Accuracy: 87; Shot Power: 82; Shot Technique: 85; Header: 93; Jump: 96; Technique: 84
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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1992-1996

Postby Luxo0x0 » 2010 Jul 01, 01:06

I think Shoot Power must be in 84, Shoot Accuracy in 86, and ST in 88

And Penaltie Hability
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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1992-1996

Postby Pumpernikiel » 2010 Sep 26, 21:26

Don't you guys think Shot Technique: 85 is way too low? and Tech: 84...?
What was the numbers before Brezza's update?
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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1994-1997

Postby Albo7 » 2010 Sep 29, 21:07

Alcohomicide wrote:Ronaldo's transfer to Inter was one of the most disgusting moments in World Football.


I'd actually say the same thing, but for the transfer to Real instead.
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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1992-1996

Postby gala2000 » 2012 Jan 29, 21:18

speed stats are still to slow, i dont understand why players today who are heavier and clearly slower keep get given higher speed stats then legendary players from years gone by that were quicker


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ACC 84
DS 83
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Re: Ivan ZAMORANO | 1992-1996

Postby cell_destroyer » 2012 Apr 30, 16:22

Length: 178 cm
Weight: 76 kg

Attack: 93
Defence: 40
Balance: 82
Stamina: 86
Top Speed: 84
Acceleration: 83
Response: 92
Agility: 85
Dribble Accuracy: 79
Dribble Speed: 82
Short Pass Accuracy: 73
Short Pass Speed: 77
Long Pass Accuracy: 71
Long Pass Speed: 72
Shot Accuracy: 88
Shot Power: 85
Shot Technique: 87
Free Kick Accuracy: 69
Curling: 77
Header: 97
Jump: 98
Technique: 84
Aggression: 92
Mentality/Tenacity: 90
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 82

Attack: 90 -> 93

Zamorano was undisputed CF at Real and he had reasons for it. Excellent positioning, mario gomez reminds me of him (although he has surpassed him), he almost always managed to be onside on his best days and made excellent runs forward. He also clearly had a sixth sense of where to be when his teammates crossed it, so many header goals.

Balance: 80 -> 82

He wasn't a tall and strong CF, but he could surely hold his own versus defenders. Everytime he made a run forward and a decent pass was thrown to him, no defender that caught up could throw him down before he shot.

Stamina: 84 -> 86-88

His constant running as a CF reminds me of C. Ronaldo (i know he isnt CF, but still), he just kept pressuring the defenders and complicate their playing. He also ran back to help defend when a teammate was on the ground or tired, 84 is too low for him.

Response: 90 -> 92

Falcao is REALLY REALLY similar to Zamorano, they both had amazing responses when a ball was loose. If Zamorano didn't score a header or his teammates got their shots blocked, he was always there for the rebound.

Dribble Speed: 80 -> 82

I don't know why he has 80 in DS, and i agree with gala2000 here. He had a good DS, getting past defenders (who were horribly slow at those times aswell) easily and also being able to run away from them when trying to get caught.

Shot Accuracy: 86 -> 88

I still believe he had better SA then ST, most of his goals at Real where powerful squared shots at an angle. His ST surpassed his SA at Inter imo. Even when he shot it with power he had really good placement.

Shot Power: 82 -> 85-87

I can't believe he only has 82, when he chose to shoot it hard the goalkeeper couldn't even react in time. Remember all those goals he shot upwards from the GK's, right on top of them, it was too fast and they couldn't catch it.

Shot Technique: 88 -> 87

He had better SA then ST imo as i said earlier. But that doesn't mean he had a bad ST, he managed to pull off hard shots into an angle without even preparing. His ST was good aswell.

Header: 93 -> 97

Simply one of the best headers of all time, even with his height. Always directed them onto a place the GK's couldn't save. It's what he's most most remembered for, his heading and jumping. Even konami rated him at 97 for header and 98 for jump.

Jump: 96 -> 98

One of the best jumps of all time, he beat defenders by AT LEAST a head when jumping. He was unstoppable when he had to head it, his jump completely humilliated defenders. He deserves to have the same as Falcao here. He was a friggin' helicopter god damnit.

Mentality: 88 -> 90

He had an amazing mentality and always cheered his teammates in both the NT and at Real. He just wouldn't stop running to pressure the opponent (when it was possible). He also never gave up till the match ended, as shown in his NT matches.

Teamwork: 78 -> 82

Although this was much higher when he got to Inter, he still had an amazing understanding with his teammates (especially Laundrup), and was always regarded as a really good teammate. He would also help tired players.

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