Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-18 | 2018-19


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Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-18 | 2018-19

Postby PES Stats Database » 2018 May 26, 22:05

Club: Liverpool FC



Growth Type: Standard/Lasting

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Club: AS Roma



Growth Type: Standard/Lasting

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Club: FC Basel



Growth Type: Standard/Lasting

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Re: Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-19

Postby kuer86 » 2019 Jun 03, 21:15

I think we should keep his last year set, even if it was just one season, he was a Monster last year (still good this year). Similar to Higuains Monster season at Napoli
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Re: Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-19

Postby Albo7 » 2019 Jun 03, 21:48

Alright then, I'll split it into 2 sets.
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Re: Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-18 | 2018-19

Postby Orm81 » 2019 Jun 08, 19:29

please, you could put the new era stats correctly on set 17-18.
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Re: Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-18 | 2018-19

Postby Albo7 » 2019 Jun 08, 19:31

I can’t, he was overwritten last year into a keeper set, without asking me, and now we’re stuck with those ratings.
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Re: Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-18 | 2018-19

Postby Orm81 » 2019 Jun 08, 19:43

mmm ok ... thanks Albo7 for the clarification. Does the same thing happen on the set of Mbappe 16-17 and in this same set of salah 12-13?
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Re: Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-18 | 2018-19

Postby TheeReallRonaldo » 2019 Jun 10, 13:20

Where is Fiorentina version?
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Re: Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-18 | 2018-19

Postby Whoah10115 » 2019 Jun 11, 03:53

This guy's technique keeps going up to made up levels. Orange BC he's now on par with Arjen Robben.

Have had the Arjen Robben conversation enough but where is Salah a 90? That's nuts.
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Re: Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-18 | 2018-19

Postby jurgens » 2019 Jun 11, 04:51

You don't really watch Salah do you, or have an idea what his level of touch is like or else you wouldn't be commenting. He is an outlet on the left-hand side for possession coming from anywhere on the pitch due to his insane ability to trap the ball cleanly under basically any circumstance, and his ability to stand up to mass pressure physically, his tech is on display pretty regularly because of this and it is taken advantage of with /henderson/trent/matip/robertson/vvd all using him as a quick outlet with long balls, hes made some very clear orange level traps, consistently this season.


Made up levels :lol: :lol: your audacity and confidence in dismissing values for players you are unfamiliar with really never ceases to amaze me
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Re: Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-18 | 2018-19

Postby Whoah10115 » 2019 Jun 11, 05:31

jurgens wrote:You don't really watch Salah do you, or have an idea what his level of touch is like or else you wouldn't be commenting. He is an outlet on the left-hand side for possession coming from anywhere on the pitch due to his insane ability to trap the ball cleanly under basically any circumstance, and his ability to stand up to mass pressure physically, his tech is on display pretty regularly because of this and it is taken advantage of with /henderson/trent/matip/robertson/vvd all using him as a quick outlet with long balls, hes made some very clear orange level traps, consistently this season.


Made up levels :lol: :lol: your audacity and confidence in dismissing values for players you are unfamiliar with really never ceases to amaze me


My Sister is a Liverpool fan and besides that I watch him every week, saw him at Roma every week, watched him at Fiorentina.

His tech has been raised from 86 to 88 to 90 fairly recently. Where is the explanation as to why?

He's got lovely touch. His touch is consistent, his balance is good. These things are also overstated, particularly given how other players are rated.

You'll hear some arguments, and I'm not on this board enough to claim there is a protocol required before raising someone's tech, but his tech was raised two points into orange level and nothing was said.

Where's the hindsight? When was the improvement? He's suddenly up 4 points during this season.
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Re: Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-18 | 2018-19

Postby TheeReallRonaldo » 2019 Jun 11, 11:11

Salah's top speed always better than his acceleration.
I like speed ratings..

Liverpool's true race horse is Sadio Mane..

Already Salah said himself Mane faster than me..

Mane's acceleration far better and top speed a bit better than Salah..
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Re: Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-18 | 2018-19

Postby josev » 2019 Jun 11, 11:25

Whoah10115 wrote:His tech has been raised from 86 to 88 to 90 fairly recently. Where is the explanation as to why?

i mean, it's kind of obvious. tecnhique is a stat that is better represented when you have a really large number on examples of its consistency, as you may not always get a chance to show orange tec in every game, or some players may show wonderful traps but mess up on other ocassions, so it very reasonable to be patient and go slow with increases unless you're really confident. and the more you watch salah at liverpool, the more you see the difficult balls he kills, the more reliable he is for that option, the more confident you become in a higher number, hence the gradual updates. i could argue that tec is more about consistency on getting difficult traps under pressure rather than flashiness of them
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Re: Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-18 | 2018-19

Postby Whoah10115 » 2019 Jun 11, 14:43

josev wrote:
Whoah10115 wrote:His tech has been raised from 86 to 88 to 90 fairly recently. Where is the explanation as to why?

i mean, it's kind of obvious. tecnhique is a stat that is better represented when you have a really large number on examples of its consistency, as you may not always get a chance to show orange tec in every game, or some players may show wonderful traps but mess up on other ocassions, so it very reasonable to be patient and go slow with increases unless you're really confident. and the more you watch salah at liverpool, the more you see the difficult balls he kills, the more reliable he is for that option, the more confident you become in a higher number, hence the gradual updates. i could argue that tec is more about consistency on getting difficult traps under pressure rather than flashiness of them


This is a totally valid response. You're right, taking the overview is the correct approach. Still surprised at the lack of explanation, given that it seems a very significant leap.

And apologies if anyone thinks that what I'm saying is not just a disagreement but a disregard for the consideration people take. That's why I'm falling back on this lack of explanation. I have no lack of consideration for the effort to do this the right way, but not only do I disagree but it just seems clearly crazy to me, especially given where he gets the ball and how he traps it. And seeing as there isn't a lot of talk around it the raise, I'm calling literally in the process of seeing it and reacting to it.

His balance is good, tho the rating of his BB is off given that people are focused on his ability to absorb contact and take hits more than equilibrium and all that. I think the Body Control stat or whatever it's called is probably one that should be higher for him than his BB (tho I never see the stat on these pages and I'm lazy to go looking for it right this second).

I think his his ability to essentially play as a post player on the wing, playing off the danger of his speed and the space behind in isolated 1v1 situations (I think Klopp does a great job of disguising that Salah is a striker who plays from the wing and sets him up so that he's never double marked and doesn't have to occupy defenders).

But, again, and again with respect for people who don't know my tone or how I talk (as this is the internet), Salah is not amongst the most technical players in the world. I get that we're trying to use just traps to identify his touch/Tech, but he's too high. 88 is too high. But even Suso isn't at 90.

Suso has better Tech than Salah, and that's not even a thing I think people actually believe to be difficult to judge.
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Re: Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-18 | 2018-19

Postby Dío » 2019 Jun 11, 18:42

Theres no lack of explanation in regards to his update in ball control:

Postby Phil » 2019 May 02, 10:23

I compared Salah's technique to Sterling in his thread to demonstrate how Sterling is overrated (still think that he is), but honestly Salah is probably underrated too. He has that ability to just kill a ball dead or manipulate the ball to set up a dribble, and has been showcasing this more and more often recently. I think he is an orange in technique here.

Also, his physical strength is just incredible. The way he can back into players and turn 6 foot + defenders so easily is amazing. I think he is well rated here.


I presume that you didn't find or could be bothered to read the last post in Mo Salah thread. If you disagree is one thing, another thing is to say that there was no explanation lol
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Re: Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-18 | 2018-19

Postby lfc 4 eva » 2019 Jun 11, 18:47

I don't think his balance and pace should be different between last season and this seasons sets. I think the current set is probably more reflective of both.
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Re: Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-18 | 2018-19

Postby Dinho16 » 2020 Jan 23, 05:48

Nice set !!
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Re: Mohamed Salah | 2012-13 | 2015-16 | 2017-18 | 2018-19

Postby grooveinsyd » 2020 Feb 16, 10:22

I genuinely do not understand why his shot power is so low, especially on his 17-18 set. He is got at least 83-86 for shot power.

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