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Vinícius Júnior

Postby PES Stats Database » 2017 Jul 23, 17:19

Full Name: Vinicius José Paixão de Oliveira Júnior
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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby Jean_PS » 2017 Jul 23, 18:28

Its main feature for creating offensive moves is its explosion and associated speed. Much of its offensive potential comes from this speed and from its air passes (more specifically, the crossings).
About this, the air passes are better than the land passes. But, although he does play good game openings here and there, he also misses many passes for daring moves in inadequate spaces. Another problem is the speed of the passes that is very slow and, in a way, can facilitate interceptions.

For this set, I analyzed as a matter of priority what he did in matches by the professional. For this reason, some people may find that he is underestimated in shoting skills and even passing. But, honestly, he has not shown anything beyond that so far in games by Brasileirão.
Many of the expectations that people create come from his hiring for Real Madrid. He's good, as I said, but maybe people are getting too high.

Below I will leave video material of some of the twelve matches that he has accomplished so far:

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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby Korinov » 2018 Mar 08, 12:24

I watched some compilations of him, was curious about how good he actually is and wanted to see if the hype was at least mildly justified.

Well Vinnicius (see what I did there, hehehe) does have potential. Nowadays he looks like a rough diamond with some interesting (yet unpolished) skills and a lot of underdeveloped things that will need years of polishing if he truly wants to shine at the highest level.

The set is overall fine, good job. Just a few notes I'd like to share:

Considering his already decent technical skills and his speed, and the dismal opposition he sometimes faces (those defenders, seriously, ugh) he struggles a lot to create end product, and to turn his attacking runs into clear goal chances. I believe this is already well represented in the low attack value, but honestly I think it could go even lower, around the 65 mark. Even if it's just to reinforce how much he has to improve in terms of decision making.

He looked decently strong to me, though? Not a bulldozer but he has enough body strenght to withstand pressure to a degree. Nothing crazy but I would see no issue into low greens BB.

His Acc is pretty brutal, potentially higher than this, 89 is not a bad value though, probably fine for the moment.

His DS however, I struggle to see him showing it to such a degree. His dribbling is mostly trickery, making use of a few tricks he's really mastered and then his great acc. Don't know him enough to judge, but I've barely seen runs on the ball where he maintains a constant, high speed. Won't comment on it further as I lack enough knowledge here.

In terms of passing he's quite promising, although very unpolished at the moment, so nothing to say regarding his stats.

Lastly, I understand why Speed Merchant was given, because there are a few moments where he shows quite crazy agility, while most of the time he's well rated at mid yellows. But that card is so overpowered, there's a good reason we've pretty much banned it from the database.
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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby Vickingo » 2018 Mar 08, 12:38

Pretty much agree with everything you said @Korinov.

I thought I commented about him but it seems I forgot. I had the possibility of being in the stadium in the final vs my team. The hype around this guy was just insane in my eyes...then we realized he was sub, we all say wtf? These were the two more important matches he participated so far? And he didn't play. When press said he's worth like 50 million I couldn't believe it, specially considering you expect him being like the star of the team. I wasn't impressed at all with him, if you go to the comments in the second video I leave in here, all say Barco is x10 more than him, and eventhough they're not the same kind of players, that's very true, at least so far.

You've got a point about his turns and his agility, probably the aspects of his game I do like the most. But he should work a lot at his decision making and mainly at his movements to be prolific at a higher level.

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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby Korinov » 2018 Mar 08, 14:40

Thanks for these, hadn't seen them. Refreshed my mind regarding something I had forgot to say, how one-footed he is (when forced to, he will resort to his left foot if there's no other way out, but with almost laughable results lol).

And yeah he's quite strong. 76 at least IMO.

Edit: also worth mentioning, he's at least willing to release the ball and try a through pass/cross when he sees a good chance for it. It usually leads to nowhere because, specially regarding ground passes, his skill is far from being good enough to pull it through, but the fact that he's trying is important, and if he puts effort and training into it, it can propel his game to an entire new dimension.
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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby duck23 » 2018 Sep 28, 19:47

Holy moly :D
I'm not checking him out lately at Real B but I really hope that he is doing justice to this update xD
So many young prospects for the Brazil NT next years, hoping that some defenders come up as well.
Go VJR o/
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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby joselu » 2018 Dec 29, 18:29

Vinicius top speed 91
Dembele top speed 90

This is crazy, who is the ignorant who put that? I thought that here they knew football.
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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby Justcom » 2019 Jan 10, 09:27

We need to update him.... He has improved greatly over the last months.... Dribble, shot power,accuracy,passing
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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby furymaker » 2019 Jan 10, 09:35

Calm down, i still think this set still kinda represent him nicely, maybe att boost may be needed since he creates a lot of danger, but I'd give him a few more games before doing anything drastic
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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby Fixer » 2019 Jan 10, 11:09

He ain't even proving any of those from what I've seen. He remains electric and surely is a player who can carry the ball forward, but his end product leaves a lot to be desired. Awful shooting, his passing doesnt seem that bad but surely not timely. Very average there, which is only normal, but I can't see him winning RM points with his current skillset. In any case, he does look willing to improve, which is good. Current set looks excellent.
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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby Justcom » 2019 Jan 10, 13:05

furymaker wrote:Calm down, i still think this set still kinda represent him nicely, maybe att boost may be needed since he creates a lot of danger, but I'd give him a few more games before doing anything drastic




Alright... I understand your opinion.. Let's give him time before an update,Although since last till now he has gotten better since he joined Madrid. A minor upgrade may be required
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Re: Vinícius Júnior

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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby Apocalypse » 2019 Feb 03, 21:41

He seems to get better and better every game. Thank you Lopetegui for not using in him at all in the first 3-4 months of the season and relegate him to Castilla.
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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby furymaker » 2019 Feb 04, 16:24

He has been really impressive last month or so, probably best performer in RM not named Benzema, so dangerous with the ball, he has decent game understanding, moves nicely without the ball, one stat I would look to change is upgrade in ATT value, he has nice vision and follows the game nicely, probably most dangerous ( most likely to make something out of nothing) RM player in this run of games since he;s been starting.
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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby B-127 » 2019 Feb 04, 16:30

If it is to move on his Attack, I would put 69> 73. At most 76.
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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby odaquio » 2019 Feb 28, 12:13

Vinicius junior merece ser atualizado. Chute passe dele estão muito abaixo do normal que ele joga.
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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby odaquio » 2019 Feb 28, 12:14

Chute 78 chute tecnico 80 . passe rapido 87. Passe longo 80
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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby dwid » 2019 Feb 28, 13:04

I've seen a few games, but I can not convince myself that I need 78 in body balance. It's the only value that I think isn't entirely correct. His game is based on speed with and without the ball, and of course on agility.
Yesterday managed to find spaces easily in Barça's defense; they could never control their individual offensive projections and made excellent pair with Reguilón. if in the near future he continues to show that intelligence, it will be necessary to increase his attack.
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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby Slizzard » 2019 Feb 28, 13:25

He played good yesterday, but doesn't have a good end product yet.
I can agree with the comment above, he isn't a green BB. Semedo with 76 was much stronger than him although I think semedo could go up a bit. So Vinicius is a white value BB in my opinion.
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Re: Vinícius Júnior

Postby Emperorniho31 » 2019 Feb 28, 13:27

PES Stats Database wrote:Full Name: Vinicius José Paixão de Oliveira Júnior

In fifa 2019 he is rating 77. Ples improve him ples

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