Juan Pablo Sorín | 1995-1999 | 2004-2006


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Juan Pablo Sorín | 1995-1999 | 2004-2006

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 11, 15:54

Club: Juventus - River Plate

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Nickname: "Juampi"
Club: Villarreal CF


Growth Type: Standard

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Re: Juan Pablo SORIN | 2000-2001

Postby p1rha » 2009 Oct 15, 03:45

BB 85? No way, he wasn't that strong. More like 80~82.
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Re: Juan Pablo SORIN | 2000-2001

Postby Djoni » 2009 Oct 15, 07:24

I agree whit p1rha. 80 would suit him well, he wasn´t that strong.
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Re: Juan Pablo SORIN | 2000-2001

Postby Uzair » 2009 Oct 15, 15:08

i may be wrong but i do believe his DA and Technique were both slightly better than this.
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Re: Juan Pablo SORIN | 2000-2001

Postby Vandeach » 2009 Oct 15, 15:09

p1rha wrote:BB 85? No way, he wasn't that strong. More like 80~82.


You are so wrong. Sorin had incredible strength in his play and was a real bulldozer, I wouldn't even argue to have it higher, you seem to forgetting his low and height into this also, he won't be as strong as taller and/or heavier people with the same value.
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Re: Juan Pablo SORIN | 2000-2001

Postby N3KR0 » 2009 Oct 15, 15:10

I think 85 suits him well, he was this strong IMO.
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Re: Juan Pablo SORIN | 2000-2001

Postby p1rha » 2009 Oct 15, 15:32

Yeah, but Daniel Alves or Evra r just as strong or even more and they r rated at 82.
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Re: Juan Pablo SORIN | 2000-2001

Postby grahf » 2009 Oct 15, 18:20

I wouldn't say they were stronger than him.. but 85 does seem a little generous. I'd have thought more along the lines of 83/84. I think his lpa could come up a few points, he was quite decent at lofted through balls and mad a few really nice ones on occasion. I think he was a much better header of the ball aswell, I know he has immense jump... but he also could really put alot of power and placement into his headers, something along the lines of 85 imo.
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Re: Juan Pablo SORIN | 2000-2001

Postby The KruX » 2010 Apr 25, 04:44

My all time favorite! :)
I agree the value for BB is a little high, and I guess his TS could go up a bit, maybe 1 or 2 points, and the same with ACC.
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Re: Juan Pablo SORIN | 2000-2001

Postby hsnandra » 2010 May 09, 20:44

Should his Mentality really be THAT high? 96 seems awfully high; he was a decent full back, nothing special. His mentality his higher than Javier Zanetti's which seems ponderous. I think it should be lowered to 90.
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Re: Juan Pablo SORIN | 2000-2001

Postby julgui » 2010 Jun 18, 03:21

Suggestions for implementing the new format:

CARDS:
S01 - Reaction
S08 - Slide Tackle
S09 - Covering
P01 - Overlapping Run
P17 - Free Roaming
*Dribbling
*Side

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded


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Re: Juan Pablo SORÍN | 2000-2001

Postby Plava Čigra » 2010 Jun 20, 21:54

Updated to fit new format. Applied most of the julgui's suggestions. Changes...

1. Added new Cards: P01: Overlapping Run, P17: Free Roaming, S01: Reaction, S08: Slide Tackle, S09: Covering + Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Balanced.

2. Added Growth type: Standard. Improved Info, added Videos and Additional Links.
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Re: Juan Pablo SORÍN | 2000-2001

Postby Akron » 2010 Jul 12, 20:10

He wasn't that strong man. 82-83 as much.
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Re: Juan Pablo SORÍN | 2000-2001

Postby santi.arg » 2011 Mar 02, 21:17

i thinks he deserves "header:87" al leas. he has a great header tec. with 1,73cm he scores many goals heading in hes carrer. He allways was in the area in free kick and corners.
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Re: Juan Pablo SORÍN | 2000-2001

Postby jurgens » 2011 Jul 28, 18:33

Not quite sure he was this good in def. Pretty sure he wasn't this strong either, have the entire 2001? copa america matches on tape somewhere... will try review them as well as some from the world cup 2006. Set looks decent though, one of my favorite players ever.
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Re: Juan Pablo SORÍN | 2000-2001

Postby xeneize » 2011 Jul 29, 00:33

agree, to me with DEF in 75/76 (i prefer 75) and BAL in 82 could be better
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Re: Juan Pablo SORÍN | 2000-2001

Postby julgui » 2011 Jul 30, 21:17

Even green zone defense seems exaggerated to me. It was pretty disorganized and not used to be well located. It was always his weak point, and remember the dance that "ate" with Odonkor ( :lol: ) in WC2010
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Re: Juan Pablo SORÍN | 2000-2001

Postby xeneize » 2011 Jul 30, 21:25

WC 2006 :mrgreen:
i think i was a bit exagerated about DEF in 76, but this set is for the sorin of 2000 - 2001 maybe 73/74 could be better

but if we extend the era to 2006, maybe his DEF could be something around 69/74 ?
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Re: Juan Pablo SORÍN | 2000-2001

Postby julgui » 2011 Jul 30, 21:35

yes... sorry jaja
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Re: Juan Pablo SORÍN | 2000-2001

Postby jurgens » 2011 Jul 30, 21:37

julgui wrote:Even green zone defense seems exaggerated to me. It was pretty disorganized and not used to be well located. It was always his weak point, and remember the dance that "ate" with Odonkor ( :lol: ) in WC2010


Do you any suggestions on the set overall? I'm watching some games atm. I was always really impressed by his movement, he played unlike any SB I've ever seen. He would wander anywhere whatsoever, I'd see him acting as a poacher at times... really unique but amazing playstyle. I used to call him the "wanderer". I'm thinking much higher agression, higher header probbaly higher attack... teamwork needs to come down too probably

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