Robin van Persie | 2005-2007 | 2010-2013

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Robin van Persie | 2005-2007 | 2010-2013

Postby PES Stats Database » 2013 Nov 26, 06:43

Club: Arsenal


Growth Type: Standard/Lasting

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Club: Arsenal / Manchester United


Growth Type: Standard/Lasting

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Re: Robin Van Persie 2010-2013

Postby vinnie » 2013 Nov 26, 06:52

if someone wants to work on an earlier set like 05/06 or even 07/08, feel free to add it. i don't know much about him from these times, though i reckon he was just more athletic, with less form and less refined etc. I was surprised to find that van persie doesn't have any contemporary sets so i added his current set as i feel like he's entering the decline stage of his career and will likely start regressing in his prowess.
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Re: Robin Van Persie 2010-2013

Postby Brahms » 2013 Nov 26, 23:29

indeed, we need a set when he was a little bit faster and like an injury tolerance Z. may use konami set as a base?
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Re: Robin Van Persie | 2010-2013

Postby Fantasista » 2014 Jul 17, 13:39

This is Van Persie from PES 6 with my comments about what I would change
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Positions: ★ SS, CF, WF

Age: 23

Height: 183 cm
Weight: 71 kg
^according to PES 6 and http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/profile.overview.html/robin-van-persie

Injury Tolerance: C
Foot: L
Side: B

Attack: 76 -> ~85
Defence: 37
Balance: 81
Stamina: 82
Top Speed: 85
Acceleration: 84
Response: 74 -> ~78
Agility: 82
Dribble Accuracy: 87
Dribble Speed: 79 ->83-85
Short Pass Accuracy: 80
Short Pass Speed: 73
Long Pass Accuracy: 80
Long Pass Speed: 83
Shot Accuracy: 75 ->81
Shot Power: 83 ->87
Shot Technique: 81 ->86
Free Kick Accuracy: 75
Curling: 84
Header: 65
Jump: 70
Technique: 88 ->90
Aggression: 90
Mentality: 68
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 62

Condition/Fitness: 4
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 4 ->3

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
★ Dribbling
★ Tactical Dribble
★ Scoring
★ Middle Shooting
★ 1-Touch Pass
★ Outside
★ Sliding


Att: just taking a look on 06/07 he was the best scorer(13) over Henry in Arsenal playing similar sum of matches (both had heatlth issues, Henry played 27 and scored 12; Van Persie played 31). In 2005/06 38app/11goals, in 2004/05 41/10. Ofc he was rarely playing full matches, often starting from the bench. But overally a very dangerous and intelligent player for his young age. The progress of matches played/goal scored ratio is very noticable. Would have way better record if not consistency, injuries and though competition from Henry, Bergkamp, Reyes.
Resp: just needs decent value. Wasn't particularly sharp, but not white resp sloppy either
DS: do you guys remember/rewatched WC06 when he and Robben used to do constant runs on sides passing multiple opponents? Yeah... although he wasn't as fast as Robben and rather relying on close ctrl he could mantain speed whan wanted to.
Shooting: Already very dangerous shooter. Not particularly clinical finisher but able to put a screamer from very hard positions
Technique: Always has been pretty much flawless in it, could be even higher.
WFF: Always looking for left foot. Not Robben like but very close to him back then.


I'd be glad to hear some feedback. I'm not 100% sure with everything, have doubts on passing stats, tw and head/jump could be probably higher. In some suggestions I might be wrong but I believe at least I'm showing proper direction of changes. This definetely isn't fully elaborated set :oops: . For the record I'm putting some vids of him at that time so you guys can have a better picture of him:

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Re: Robin Van Persie | 2010-2013

Postby Brahms » 2014 Jul 20, 21:22

i had something similar with the difference that i have him with lower attack, not mid yellows, with 81-82 he still manage to create a lot of danger because of his shooting stats and better speed, and lower passing accuracy stats, just high greens for pass accuracy and 83 for LPS. are you sure about technique at 90? i see him a little lower, he was good but not consistently and good enough to warrant a 90 from what i remember.
it looks good overall by the way
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Re: Robin Van Persie | 2010-2013

Postby Fantasista » 2014 Jul 21, 07:51

As I said I've doubts about passing stats hence I didn't proposed any changes. Going by feel I'd say that yellow spa is unnecessary. I remember he was a pretty good crosser though. I completely disagree with att being that low. When he was fit and in form he wasn't that far from himself today in terms of potential dangerousness. But usually he wasn't. Even with att bordering oranges his usefulness will be limited due to low form, IT:C (as a player very inclined to dribble will get fouled a lot) and mentality.

I'm 100% sure he deserves orange technique. Even in the vids I posted above you can see some nice first touches proving my point. As for consistency/efficiency issues again form, IT, ment.

Thx for the feedback mate :)
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Re: Robin Van Persie | 2010-2013

Postby Fantasista » 2014 Sep 16, 10:32

BUMP ~2005-07 set
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Re: Robin Van Persie | 2010-2013

Postby Brahms » 2015 Feb 05, 02:11

bumping fantasista's set.
really accurate to me
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Re: Robin Van Persie | 2010-2013

Postby Scaramuso » 2015 May 05, 12:49

Where are his cards?
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Re: Robin Van Persie | 2010-2013

Postby Fantasista » 2015 Jul 01, 10:50

Any thoughts on 05-07 era? Maybe someone has its own, superior set to work with?
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Re: Robin Van Persie | 2010-2013 | 2005-2007

Postby Fantasista » 2016 Apr 06, 07:32

Since nobody anounced that, today I see for the first time that early set was finally added, more than 6 months ago xD. In the future though I'd like to kindly ask classic mods to post info about adding new set.

However I'd like to discuss some values that was given young Van Persie. It's not because they aren't exactly as in my original set (as I said I had my doubts on many). But this set was added without any explanations, justification on stats what so ever. Specifically I have my doubts on:

DA. I actually like the idea of giving young V. Persie higher da but 4 points is too much of a difference. And in context of other low 90s da players (eg Tevez, Ribery, CR7) I don't really see him on the same level or higher than likes of Henry. I'd be perfectly fine with sth like 89 though.

SPA and SPS. Back in a day I clearly stated I don't know how to manage this stats so in my post I didn't suggest any changes from Konami set. However 83-84 puts him pretty much on Prime Henry level. Van Persie was good, but when he was playing alongside Henry there was no doubts whose passes are better, higher quality. I'm not denying Konami stats of spa 80 sps 73 underrated him but I believe corrections were overdone.

SP, Fka, Swerve. My first impression is why would he has higher values in here than in his prime set? Moreover apart from that his shoots were usually mid-high yellows in terms of power and again going by comparisons (even considering flaws of this method) I don't see him on the same value as CR7 at the same time (06/07). Van Persies shots were always hard, true, but unlike so many powerful shooter it was his combination of power and technique that made him special. In terms of pure power though I would still see him in high yellows at that time. 90 is really pushing the edge imo, but on the other hand if we want to highliht power as his main asset in shooting then there's a logic behind it (especially considering low form). But 90 is absolute top to me.

As fka and swerve goes I'd just like to see some evidences that he was actually that good at that time. I don't remember it, however that doesn't prove he isn't worthy this values. Yet again he's portrait as suprisingly better at those in his early than late 20s.

PS. If any stat is higher in early set because prime one is outdated, invalid in any way, please let me know.
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Re: Robin Van Persie | 2010-2013 | 2005-2007

Postby Fantasista » 2016 May 13, 19:55

I also don't see any reason for early set to have wfa:6. He was at best average with his weaker foot. In Konami set he had 4 and I originally felt that was deserved value. I'd be cool with 5 if it's considered necessary.
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Re: Robin Van Persie | 2010-2013 | 2005-2007

Postby Brahms » 2016 Sep 15, 18:55

didn't he earned a nice red attack by two or three solid seasons as a scoring machine?
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Re: Robin Van Persie | 2010-2013 | 2005-2007

Postby vonkomn » 2016 Sep 15, 20:25

Brahms wrote:didn't he earned a nice red attack by two or three solid seasons as a scoring machine?

I think it was a 95.

Also why is he taller on the 05-07 set?
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Re: Robin Van Persie | 2010-2013 | 2005-2007

Postby Defender1990 » 2016 Sep 15, 23:47

And why doesn't he has any special abilities on te 10-13 set?
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Re: Robin Van Persie | 2010-2013 | 2005-2007

Postby Fantasista » 2016 Sep 16, 17:33

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Fantasista wrote:I'd like to discuss some values that was given young Van Persie. It's not because they aren't exactly as in my original set (as I said I had my doubts on many). But this set was added without any explanations, justification on stats what so ever. Specifically I have my doubts on:

DA. I actually like the idea of giving young V. Persie higher da but 4 points is too much of a difference. And in context of other low 90s da players (eg Tevez, Ribery, CR7) I don't really see him on the same level or higher than likes of Henry. I'd be perfectly fine with sth like 89 though.

SPA and SPS. Back in a day I clearly stated I don't know how to manage this stats so in my post I didn't suggest any changes from Konami set. However 83-84 puts him pretty much on Prime Henry level. Van Persie was good, but when he was playing alongside Henry there was no doubts whose passes are better, higher quality. I'm not denying Konami stats of spa 80 sps 73 underrated him but I believe corrections were overdone.

SP, Fka, Swerve. My first impression is why would he has higher values in here than in his prime set? Moreover apart from that his shoots were usually mid-high yellows in terms of power and again going by comparisons (even considering flaws of this method) I don't see him on the same value as CR7 at the same time (06/07). Van Persies shots were always hard, true, but unlike so many powerful shooter it was his combination of power and technique that made him special. In terms of pure power though I would still see him in high yellows at that time. 90 is really pushing the edge imo, but on the other hand if we want to highliht power as his main asset in shooting then there's a logic behind it (especially considering low form). But 90 is absolute top to me.

As fka and swerve goes I'd just like to see some evidences that he was actually that good at that time. I don't remember it, however that doesn't prove he isn't worthy this values. Yet again he's portrait as suprisingly better at those in his early than late 20s.

PS. If any stat is higher in early set because prime one is outdated, invalid in any way, please let me know.

PPS. I also don't see any reason for early set to have wfa:6. He was at best average with his weaker foot. In Konami set he had 4 and I originally felt that was deserved value.


aimar16 wrote:Wasn't he on red ATK before?


Yeah I believe he had it in 2010-13 set, dunno why it was changed.
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Re: Robin Van Persie | 2010-2013 | 2005-2007

Postby mcmattie » 2016 Dec 19, 08:42

He needs more header/jump, like he has in his current set.

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