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Camilo Zúñiga

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 11, 10:50

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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby jmg721 » 2008 Dec 20, 12:43

Why is his Agility so low? I thought he was about 5-10 points better. A pretty fluid player.
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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby DeFrenZ » 2008 Dec 20, 21:46

these were my toughts on some stats:

BAL: don't know really, but seemed stronger than a 71...
TS: 82-83
AGI: 83
LPA: 77-78
MEN: 73-74
TW: 73-76
COND: 5-6
WFF: 4-5
CONS: 5


...and he deserves that ACC ;)
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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby jmg721 » 2008 Dec 20, 22:15

Can you write a bit about your thoughts on these values...
My values would be slightly different:
BAL: 74 (at least...he seems about the same as Modric, and not 1 point above Foggia)
TS: I don't know about this. I thought his TS was quite good, but maybe his really good acceleration is what I am thinking of :? )
AGI: 86 (This could be even higher. I was serious when I said this could go up 5-10 points. I find it hard to believe he is less agile than Zarate for example.)
LPA: 77 (you might have a point here)
MEN: TW: COND: WFF: CONS: ...Not Sure,,,
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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby DeFrenZ » 2008 Dec 20, 22:29

DeFrenZ wrote:these were my toughts on some stats:

BAL: don't know really, but seemed stronger than a 71...
TS: 82-83
AGI: 83
LPA: 77-78
MEN: 73-74
TW: 73-76
COND: 5-6
WFF: 4-5
CONS: 5


...and he deserves that ACC ;)


well, that BAL seems a bit drastic to me, like he'll never even be a challenge, and i think that is untrue. i still don't know how strong he is but he didn't seem useless in that :\

TS yeah, he's fast but didn't seem that fast to me (i might be wrong though)... but his ACC really impressed me :) (could be even higher for me)

AGI he seemed quite agile, but not so much. the fact is i've seen him not on good quality video, so i have to imagine some :P but the impression he gave me was low-mids yellows

LPA he's not that good in them, he's quite average and then maybe even something lower? i think he's fine with the proposed values though

MEN well, he takes quite a while everytime to come back to defence, and since DEF isn't enough low to warrant this, i think MEN should be lowered too... he didn't seem to fight on lost balls too much either...

TW he IS selfish, but... dunno... 70 seemed low to me.

WFF well he uses it when he has to, and with 3 he hardly does...

COND isn't he playing quite some consecutive games lately?

CONS oh my, he doesn't make mistakes so often... he's quite average in that



...btw, does he deserve that A?
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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby Ace » 2008 Dec 21, 02:35

DeFrenZ wrote:...btw, does he deserve that A?

i'm thinking the same, and i think no
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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby nancyboy » 2008 Dec 23, 19:39

I'm a follower of Camilo Zúñiga from his early days, cause I'm from medellin and of course a Atlético Nacional true Fan, I think you have done a grat job, camilo could become a great player if he continues to grow.

IMO, he should have an acc of at least 72, he score great goals in Nacional and you should pay attention to him, is his first season abroad and he already made it to the first team.

- Acc at least 72

- Teamwork 75 at least!! Obviously he's selfish, but he can make a lot of great moves with the rest of the team, and that´s what this stat is about. just wait to he´s settled!!

- Agi at least 83, this should be one of his greatest stats!! he can go through 2 or 3 defenders with good pace and flair, at a good speed and showing some silky moves, it's not just dribbling, he should have more on this stat.

- Condition at least 5!! He made it to the first team, and not in one or two games!!! against Inter he was in the starting eleven and play the whole game, did great also!!

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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby jmg721 » 2008 Dec 23, 22:15

Can you comment on our suggestions. Defrenz and I have suggested similar numbers to the ones you said. Shot Acc is the only thing you mentioned that he had not mentioned.
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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby danielfrancog » 2009 Jan 07, 04:57

agree his agl should be in the 80s at least and bal at least 76 and i would also ad 1 or 2 points in da
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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Jan 11, 22:09

Updated minimum suggestions so far...like to continue dialog:
*74BAL: UP(defrenz)74(jmg)76+(danielfrancog)
*83AGI: 80's(danielfrancog)83(defrenz)83+(nancyboy)86+(jmg)
*78LPA: 77-78(defrenz)(jmg)
*73TW: 73-76(defrenz)?(jmg)75+(nancyboy)
*5COND: 5-6(defrenz)?(jmg)
*4WFF: 4-5(defrenz)?(jmg)
*5CONS: 5(defrenz)?(nancyboy)(jmg)
*BIT: B(ace)(defrenz)

Not updated yet:
TS: 82-83(defrenz)?(jmg)
Accl: could be higher (defrenz)
MEN: 73-74(defrenz)?(jmg)
SA: 87(nancyboy)
DA: 81/82(danielfrancog)
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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby danielfrancog » 2009 Jan 12, 05:06

if you ask me he seems as fast as zambrota (85) but i do think zambrota is over rated in that
acc seems good now (as good as ashley cole )
agree with 74 MEN 80 is just to high for now
but TW could be 75
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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby danielfrancog » 2009 Feb 19, 23:52

i take back what i said . watching him lately he really deserves a HIGHER agility :shock: high 80s at least i wanna go with 91 DA 82/83 and TW just as is and response he should be at LEAST between inexperienced and poor so i suggest 77 - 78 (but i think hes average) and once again mentality shouldn't even be green numbers 74

JMG721 Serie A Response Table:
70-74 Basically retarded to terrible
75-77 Awful to Bad(or inexperienced)
78-81 Poor to Below Average
82-83 Average
84-87 Pretty Good to Very Good
88-99 World Class to God of Football
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AGI 91
RESP 77 - 78
DA 83
MEN 74
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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby DeFrenZ » 2009 Feb 20, 20:00

so he's nimbler than giovinco?
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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Feb 20, 22:33

I was thinking 86+. 91 is a bit much ;)
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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby danielfrancog » 2009 Feb 21, 00:05

DeFrenZ wrote:so he's nimbler than giovinco?


well he might not have the DA of giovinco but i do think hes more agile and plus when i tried him on game wasnt nowhere near as agile as in real life im not saing that hes better than giovinco never but all he has is agility and i think a number below 90 doesnt make him any justice beeng the best player siena has ( in my opinion)
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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Feb 21, 03:42

I will watch him more. I must say that his AGI is his best aspect, and was surprised to see is as low as it initially was. I still think it needs to be improved. But IMO he isn't on the same level as Miccoli or Sanchez. And Giovinco would be higher than an 89 if he was able to show it on more of a consistent basis. Giovinco I could see eventually being in the "god region". I'm not saying Zuniga isn't at all in these players class....but I haven't seen him do it personally on a consistent and effective level to be on that level YET. Just my opinion though. I know you watch him on NT also ;)
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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby BECKS23LA » 2009 Mar 06, 18:38

I Think that Condition could be 6
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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby nancyboy » 2009 Mar 12, 14:41

Hello Again, let me tell you, when he was in Atlético Nacional, his Agility was one of his key aspects, and
I agree, he doesn´t have the DA of giovinco, but he definitly has more DS tan gio.

DAcc. could be right at 80 IF he has more DSpeed

Acceleration, Agility and DS should be nearly 88 - 89, he's not at 90 level... still.

Another aspect has to be his Shot Acc. 69 his TOO LOW! he score some good goals here in colombia. Hmmm... looking at the SA stats ladder, I'll give him a 74, just below Raffaele PALLADINO, Esteban CAMBIASSO, Takayuki MORIMOTO, Ricardo QUARESMA, Marco MARCHIONNI, David PIZARRO... players who can score a couple of goals a season; and contidion 6 is just about right.

Suggestions:
Acceleration:
88 (+ 1)
Agility: 89 (+6)
Dribble Speed: 88 (+3)
Shot A: 74 (+5)
Condition: 6 (+1)
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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Mar 12, 15:22

TY for the post...
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Re: Camilo ZUÑIGA

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Mar 18, 20:54

Here is the updated Suggestions:(I am re-posting this because I have updated my suggestions)

74BAL: UP(defrenz)76(jmg)76+(danielfrancog)
83AGI: 83(defrenz) 87(jmg) 89(nancyboy) 91(danielfrancog)
78LPA: 77-78(defrenz)(jmg)
73TW: 73-76(defrenz)?(jmg) 75(danielfrancog) 75+(nancyboy)
5COND: 5-6(defrenz)?(jmg) 6(becks)(nancyboy)
4WFF: 4-5(defrenz)?(jmg)
5CONS: 5(defrenz)?(nancyboy)(jmg)
BIT: B(ace)(defrenz)

TS: 82-83(defrenz)? disagree(danielfrancog)(jmg)
Accl: 88(defrenz)(nancyboy)(jmg) disagree(danielfrancog)
STA: 85(jmg)
MEN: 73-74(defrenz)? 74(danielfrancog)
SA: 74(nancyboy)
DA: 83(danielfrancog)
DS: 88(nancyboy)
Jump: 78(jmg)
Res: 77-78(danielfrancog)(jmg)

Note: vs. Milan there was a foot race between Pato & him...eventhough Pato won the race after covering more distance. I think the difference of 4 is reasonable.
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