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Re: Gabriel ACHILIER , Emelec

Postby Basilio » 2012 Aug 29, 03:36

We gotta do something about the standard values for def and resp. Everyone is the same! About achillier, his leap is autentic and magnific, i seriously think on oranges
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Re: Gabriel ACHILIER , Emelec

Postby Luisito » 2012 Sep 08, 06:56

fixed his age and you feel free to update he Basi ;)
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Re: Gabriel ACHILIER , Emelec

Postby BelloMina » 2012 Sep 12, 23:56

Interesting set but please register it in the data base.

Update photo http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VC8QD5yFrnI/U ... riel-2.jpg

I suggest:

88: Jump
87: Header
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Re: Gabriel ACHILIER , Emelec

Postby BelloMina » 2012 Sep 13, 21:18

I sustent my header and jump hypothesis with this 4 videos of Achilier goals, maybe values could be even higher.

Emelec 5 - 0 Olmedo First goal
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Emelec 1 - 1 DIM First goal
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Deportivo Cuenca 0 - 3 Emelec Second goal
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Emelec 2 - 1 Independiente Second goal
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This guy is a monster, really excellent header.
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Re: Gabriel ACHILIER , Emelec

Postby Basilio » 2012 Sep 13, 22:22

thanks for the videos, updated.
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Re: Gabriel ACHILIER , Emelec

Postby BelloMina » 2012 Sep 16, 17:48

I am sure he deserves condition 7 by the way
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Re: Gabriel ACHILIER , Emelec

Postby Basilio » 2012 Sep 16, 17:51

care to elaborate/explain ? I havent followed closely this season, but i've heard he has been below his usual in many games
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Re: Gabriel ACHILIER , Emelec

Postby BelloMina » 2012 Sep 16, 17:54

I do not agree with that, he has been vert consistent all year and he had problems when he had not a good partner but in general he has been a great defender all year and play in the same good level he has.
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Re: Gabriel ACHILIER , Emelec

Postby BelloMina » 2012 Oct 31, 01:25

He defineltly needs defence 80 he is very solid and he is not worst than Nasuti, actually I think he gives more security than his central back partner; however I don't see him in the same level as Jayro Campos; his level in the national team was very good, very near to Jayro. Also I am sure his balance is higher than this, I would like to suggest an 84, it is a great value for him; he is stronger than Nasuti.

I also noted a little odd in his agility, when you see him playing in the National team you could realize that, he is not so agile as the actual value, he is not as agile as Jayro IMO, I see him in a 74 actually, I thought he would deserve better but watching him against Venezuela and Chile he seemed more robotic than Campos, he is agile but not this high, and yes he can play as a SB, where he shows a crapy level.

His teamwork is a lot higher than the actual 76, he positions very aceptable for me, I rate him in 79 a little better than Frickson and one less than Jayro.

Also, he is totally a condition 7, it's weird to see him playing in a bad level, el Gabo is a very consistent player with Emelec and Ecuadorian jersey.
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Re: Gabriel ACHILIER , Emelec

Postby BelloMina » 2012 Nov 07, 16:16

Please Basilio I think you have to reconsider the actual values, he is a great defender.

He is the good in Emelec's defence not Nasuti.
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Re: Gabriel ACHILIER , Emelec

Postby Basilio » 2012 Nov 07, 22:21

who gave him slunging tackle ? Gonna update him, though im not confident you understand what teamwork does on a defender: Always very alert to whats going on around him, with an eye on an opposition player, doing good coverings and 'relevos' etc
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Re: Gabriel ACHILIER , Emelec

Postby Diego » 2012 Nov 07, 22:29

probably a bug, idk

btw, we need to do some fixing to age thing, and changing names to normal letters around here :geek:
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Re: Gabriel Achilier, Emelec

Postby BelloMina » 2013 Feb 07, 01:57

I suggest a higher mentality hi is a player with a lot of tenacity more than Jayro Campos really.
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Re: Gabriel Achilier, Emelec

Postby Basilio » 2013 Feb 07, 02:09

i dont see him as a very strong player, but with a lot of attitude, i think he is more or less fine with this bb. Agree on ment, updated to Luis Caicedo's level
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Re: Gabriel Achilier, Emelec

Postby Basilio » 2013 Feb 17, 04:54

Who agrees with higher response ? Not for interceptions but for willingness to recover the ball, he goes out to pressure quite consistenly
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Re: Gabriel Achilier, Emelec

Postby BelloMina » 2013 Feb 17, 05:45

Yes I've noticed a high response also long time ago I saw him with a lot of pressure in the forwards however I never thought about that a lot. Agree _tick
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Re: Gabriel Achilier, Emelec

Postby chedl » 2013 Feb 21, 16:24

yeah, maybe can be higher.
btw, is he really so good in aerial game? Against Peñarol i think Olivera beat him almost all balls in air and his jump isn't nothing of another world.

About previous posts about def, imo Nasuti looks better in that point, Nasuti won a lot of balls by floor or air and Zalayeta almost always was marked by him, while often Olivera (marked by Achilier) was alone and won many ball of corner kicks and crosses, the goal is only one example

this are not suggestions, just are my views about him in Peñarol-Emelec
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Re: Gabriel Achilier, Emelec

Postby Basilio » 2013 Jun 01, 18:53

is he really so good in aerial game?


Offensively of course.

Im thinking, perhaps lower form ?
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Re: Gabriel Achilier, Emelec

Postby BelloMina » 2013 Jun 01, 19:10

Yes, he has not been this consistent this year, maybe 6 condition would be good, Im not sure if 5 I dont really think that low. His aerial game is great (I also attached some videos showing his aerial dominance before)
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