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Marcelo Díaz

Postby PES Stats Database » 2012 Jan 09, 15:28

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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Mar 14, 14:34

I've approved this set, but Awareness was switched from OFF to BAL.
There a couple of things I want to discuss, mainly his AGG and his FKA.
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Mar 14, 14:52

Good player for what I've seen...set looks pretty accurate. What do you think about his AGG/FKA?

Please create him in the editor and change to the new format Ignacio, so he'll appear in "new" page.
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Mar 14, 15:01

I've recently added him in the editor, thanks for the reminder.
About AGG, well, he plays deeper than the rest of his midfield teammates, but 71 seems relatively low.
I'd go for 73-74 but I also want some feedback from other members.
And he isn't that accurate to deserve FKA 79 IMO. When he takes FKs, it's mostly to cross to a teammate, it's rare to see him taking a direct FK.
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby mracho » 2012 Mar 14, 16:56

MaxPower wrote:I've recently added him in the editor, thanks for the reminder.

You still need to convert the first post so that it uses the data from the editor (using the [player][/player] tags). ;)

Congratulations on becoming a mod btw. :)
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby Basilio » 2012 Mar 14, 17:34

why is his passing so extremely low ? Flawless passer
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Mar 14, 21:01

Probably needs an increase in both SPA and SPS, but don't forget he already has good vision and know very well the movement of his teammates (i.e. relatively high TW). What would you suggest in numbers, Basilio??
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby Giovinco14 » 2012 Mar 14, 21:24

teamwork can be 84, he cordinates good with his teammates
LPA can be 84, i think the Long pass is one of the best of his atributes
SPA 81/82 the pass stats that he has now is for an average CM, the accuracy is really good
Tech 83/84 he controlls the ball good as good as millar or mirosevic
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby Basilio » 2012 Mar 14, 22:31

higher than 83 each one of them form what i've seen, not sure i think he needs higher than that still. Btw teamwork doesnt affect vision and vision doesnt improve passes
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Mar 17, 18:45

SPA/SPS would be OK in 83/84 for me. I'm also considering Passing/Passer, because of his high passing ratio. And I'm not talking only about short, simple passes, but also key, incisive ones.
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby Basilio » 2012 Mar 17, 23:27

passing/passer doesnt influence passing accuracy or speed, that goes solely for passing stats, it simply makes a player more inclined to play through balls
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Mar 17, 23:35

Basilio wrote:passing/passer doesnt influence passing accuracy or speed, that goes solely for passing stats, it simply makes a player more inclined to play through balls

And that's why I commented he's not just into simple passes. In fact, he has deep-lying playmaker role in Universidad de Chile, putting incisive through passes as you have mentioned.
I'm also considering giving him Playmaking because of this.
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby Basilio » 2012 Mar 17, 23:45

ah sorry misuderstood your post. i thought you wanted to give him passing/passer because of difficult passes instead of just increasing his passing stats... i also think he is a good bit more accurate than these on long passes and in overall passing just perfect, would follow him in copa libertadores to give more concrete values. Last but not least, i see his teamwork higher by some points
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Mar 18, 23:35

I got convinced with Basilio's suggestions.
Passing/Passer and Playmaking added after the previous explanations.
Also, AGG and TW were boosted.
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby Giovinco14 » 2012 Mar 22, 21:34

what a great pass put to paredes in the match of yesterday, his LPA is really great :D
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Mar 22, 22:52

He was, by far, the best on the field last night.
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby Giovinco14 » 2012 Mar 22, 23:15

he has good pass, he's never tired in a match, he has a very good tech. he has to be a world class CMF in my opinion :D
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Mar 28, 16:54

I do love this guy's style of playing and I watch him just in Copa matches. Clear that, he's a real no.5, as Basilio said flawless passer...it's difficult to watch him missing passes. Btw, I've watched the same about his aggression, he plays really deeper...but my god, what movility he has! He passes the ball and quickly moves to receive the devolution and start again...he has a really good tank though. His aggression could come down to low 70's, he doesn't need it at all. About teamwork he's freacking good, very supportive, I watch it similar to Ortigoza's level, but a bit "worse" if it's the right word.
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby Mercep » 2012 Apr 20, 04:33

he displayed a nice level this night helping to recover balls and finding space to play from deep, always sure of not waste any passes and making some interesting attempts to score from long distance. is pretty sad that athletic's goal came from a mistake from him after recovering the ball.

i'll not suggest any value but just gonna say he always show more and more to deserve a spot in NT.
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Re: Marcelo DÍAZ

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Apr 23, 17:25

Updated. By far, one of the most consistent players in our league, and one of the few who deserve CON/FIT 7.
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