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Germán Denis, Universitario de Deportes

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Re: German DENIS

Postby jmg721 » 2008 Dec 22, 18:18

Since he has *scoring I think we can lower his SA. He gets in good positions but tends to miss easy chances more often than a player with his stats should.

I think his attack could be on the same level as Rocchi & Bianchi at 83. I think his SA could be an 81/82. His balance also could be looked at. Natali on Torino could not out muscle him, and he is 2 points higher (89), and a bigger player. One play Ogbonna(85) did a running body check, and Denis kept his feet.

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Re: German DENIS

Postby Rfuna » 2009 Feb 05, 20:51

jmg721 wrote:Since he has *scoring I think we can lower his SA. He gets in good positions but tends to miss easy chances more often than a player with his stats should.

I think his attack could be on the same level as Rocchi & Bianchi at 83. I think his SA could be an 81/82. His balance also could be looked at. Natali on Torino could not out muscle him, and he is 2 points higher (89), and a bigger player. One play Ogbonna(85) did a running body check, and Denis kept his feet.

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Re: German DENIS

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Feb 06, 00:17

Especially considering his size...he plays a lot bigger.
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Re: German DENIS

Postby zuo » 2009 Feb 09, 02:32

78 is his "perfect form" weight (sry for english). Now he weighs something like 86 kgs..... and i think that it's a lot more realistic. his upper body is very big....he's really strong.
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Re: German DENIS

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Feb 09, 05:27

You're probably right, but the only official weight I have is 78kg. I don't want to guess 8-)
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Re: German DENIS

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Apr 16, 08:15

Suggestion Recap:
Balance: 88-89
Shot Accuracy: 81-82
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Re: German DENIS

Postby Ace » 2009 Apr 16, 12:16

agree with both, he is "el tanqe" for a reason :D, shot accuracy decrease is justified by his bad season in Italy :(
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Re: German DENIS

Postby nico90 » 2009 Apr 16, 12:26

He reminds me Bobone Vieri :D
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Re: German DENIS

Postby zuo » 2009 Apr 16, 15:14

yeah jmg i agree...poor that player's statistics are not cheked every season's starting...because,like i said earlier, it's clearly that he can't weigh only 78 kg....without official sources for the real weight(something like at the very least 85 kg ) he needs somethin more BAL that he actually deserves(with his REAL weight)
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Re: German DENIS

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Apr 16, 17:08

Updated BB & SA 8-)
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Re: German DENIS

Postby Rfuna » 2009 Jun 25, 04:51

everywhere I look, weight is confirmed as 78 kg. If thats the case BB @ 88 still seems too high to me. He can't be 4 pts stronger than Javier Zanetti. That much stronger than both Vucinic and Riise :?
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Re: German DENIS

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Jun 25, 05:01

Compare him more to the US CF's. Altidore, Ching, McBride, Cooper...
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Re: German DENIS

Postby Rfuna » 2009 Jun 25, 12:54

jmg721 wrote:Compare him more to the US CF's. Altidore, Ching, McBride, Cooper...
Ok, know nothing about Cooper and Ching :lol: :D . McBride was a towering presence in the air even at only 183 cm. Altidore is heavier and taller, BB @ 85 is just right. I haven't watched Denis closely but I would rate him @ 86. Just the image of him knocking down Javier ZAnetti is upsetting, but it could be so :?
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Re: German DENIS

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Jun 25, 13:02

It's funny that the majority of the discussion in this thread has been about his BB :P
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Re: German DENIS

Postby zuo » 2009 Jun 25, 13:05

jmg721 wrote:It's funny that the majority of the discussion in this thread has been about his BB :P


well, it's such a dominant skill...i think it's normal.
anyway i agree to let down BB to 86 with an uptaded weight of 84-85 KGs.
Just to figure out look at de rossi at 184 cm weighs 83 kgs....and look at Denis structure,he's a little shorter but his upper body is sensibly bigger...at this weight,i think BB is fine,he is really imposing

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Re: German DENIS

Postby Rfuna » 2009 Jun 25, 13:19

jmg721 wrote:It's funny that the majority of the discussion in this thread has been about his BB :P

and what's up with scoring*? Is this from past appearances, before he joined Napoli. I'd rather see positioning* but to me he deserves neither. SA should go up to 82. Jump to 80/81

zuo wrote:anyway i agree to let down BB to 86 with an uptaded weight of 86 KGs.
where did you get this number for weight? Sounds a bit too heavy for him, but it is possible.
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Re: German DENIS

Postby zuo » 2009 Jun 25, 13:37

Rfuna wrote:
jmg721 wrote:It's funny that the majority of the discussion in this thread has been about his BB :P

and what's up with scoring*? Is this from past appearances, before he joined Napoli. I'd rather see positioning* but to me he deserves neither. SA should go up to 82. Jump to 80/81

zuo wrote:anyway i agree to let down BB to 86 with an uptaded weight of 86 KGs.
where did you get this number for weight? Sounds a bit too heavy for him, but it is possible.


im sorry rfuna but this is one of my great number of guesses about heights and weights that i found suspicious....

78 kgs Denis
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83 kgs De rossi
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well i have to say that pics are pretty unuseful,in videos you could have a really better idea..
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Re: German DENIS

Postby Rfuna » 2009 Jun 25, 16:56

Denis might well be 80+kg but every website I check says 78kg so lets leave it at that. I'm still not convinced about the weight. Jason mentioned he stood up to challenges vs Natali and Obonga of Torino. Does anyone else have other examples. Because I'm watching the 1st half versus Udinese and vs. Feronetti, Zapata (who needs an update in BB anyway), and Lukovic he didn't appear any stronger, he didn't even shield the ball well. If I have time I might check out the Torino game but i'm unconvinced. Any thoughts on raising SA and jump and then removing scoring*? And IMO ACC needs to be higher than TS. SOmething like ACC @ 82 and TS @ 79. Thoguths?
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Re: Germán DENIS

Postby zuo » 2010 Mar 14, 20:02

Might appeared on par or even sliiightly stronger than Felipe on shoulder-to-shoulder. Denis-Felipe (-5 cms ,same kgs) /+3 BB /. Might be even an 87 BB realistic to replicate that,but need more evidence against even stronger central backs.
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