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Nereo Champagne

Postby PES Stats Database » 2010 Nov 05, 01:53

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Re: Nereo CHAMPAGNE, Ferrocarril Oeste

Postby julgui » 2011 Jan 09, 22:59

Excelent stats! Had a difficult start, as Javier Garcia in Boca.

Only suggest:

Defens
Defense: 79-->78 - I think he deserves to be a point below Bernacchi. Unless you go up to Martin.
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Re: Nereo CHAMPAGNE, Ferrocarril Oeste

Postby Vickingo » 2011 Mar 29, 02:42

julgui wrote:Excelent stats! Had a difficult start, as Javier Garcia in Boca.

Only suggest:

Defens
Defense: 79-->78 - I think he deserves to be a point below Bernacchi. Unless you go up to Martin.


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Re: Nereo CHAMPAGNE

Postby julgui » 2011 Jul 10, 04:01

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Re: Nereo CHAMPAGNE

Postby Christiancito » 2012 Jan 31, 02:54

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Re: Nereo CHAMPAGNE

Postby VUKDS » 2012 Mar 06, 17:15

Response definitely needs highing,I suggest 84...In game against Boca he had a lot of good and very fast interventions...
What do you think?
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Re: Nereo CHAMPAGNE

Postby Mariano_11 » 2012 Mar 06, 17:22

if not 84 .. I suggest a 83 .. and I'm not so sure suggest a 80 in def ... is a good goalkeeper .. I do not think you can be on par with torrico, sara,
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Re: Nereo CHAMPAGNE

Postby VUKDS » 2012 Mar 07, 13:47

Yeah,agree for 83 it would be perfect for him.
I don't know why San Lorenzo bought him,they could buy so much better keepers,why Champagne? :P
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Re: Nereo CHAMPAGNE

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Mar 07, 16:08

Yeah he needs better response but this set isn't wrong at all tbh. I had the opportunity of watching him in other teams and he wasn't good, many fails, especially handling the ball and going out. But his agility is a good point in his game, could be even at yellows...despite being a hard and tall man, he could make amazing double saves and be elastic; something surprising to his height/weight ratio.

I don't know why San Lorenzo bought him,they could buy so much better keepers,why Champagne?


Dunno if they can buy better players now. They're in economic ruins since a while (and with several violence sucess in last days) and they fighting to don't be relegated this tournament and they're very complicated in this moment. Btw, his substitute was the starter before (Pablo Migliore) but he had awful matches and fights with Bottineli and new coach (Madelon) decided to put Champagne as he had good summer games. Btw San Lorenzo's big problem isn't exactly its keeper...it's the whole team.
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Re: Nereo CHAMPAGNE

Postby VUKDS » 2012 Mar 07, 21:08

Ok,thanks for reply. :)
For that I saw,Bazan is probably one of the best San Lorenzo's player,good techniqian with big agility,he needs an update,too.
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Re: Nereo CHAMPAGNE

Postby gotaa » 2012 May 04, 21:15

For what I could see in the highlights of their last Copa Argentina match, he deserves quite better RESP. And now that is all mostly based in DEF/RESP/KS, probably DEF could be better (you may know him deeper) and AGI has to go down. Just look Joe Hart, has 74 now in AGI; it's a stat that has to be rated as any other player, AGI doesn't mean quickness to make double saves (that's RESP+DEF). The same should be done with every keeper.
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Re: Nereo CHAMPAGNE

Postby xeneize » 2012 May 04, 21:33

yes, thanks for comment here, for sure he deserve changes
he showed a "good" level in his matches as starter after Migliore return to the starters, maybe his best attribute is his RES, good reflexes and reactions, but with not AGI practically, DEF can go up to yellows IMO nothing special but he know where ahve to stay in the plays, teh same to KS, maybe a 80 could fit him well?
btw, JUMP has to go down too, looks high if you ask me, specially seeing Pozo (well rated IMO) in 77, and without doubts Pozo have FAR better jump to my eyes
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Re: Nereo CHAMPAGNE

Postby gotaa » 2012 May 05, 19:25

Remember not to be conservative with the AGI downgrade in GKs, it has to be rated as any other field player: the ability to change direction/turn/move. Most of the Gks wouldn't generally show something special at it, specially the heavy ones (look at Brad Friedel who has been rated 68). Maybe the thin goalkeepers (I could say Chichizola, Chiarini, from Nacional B or JP Carrizo, who used to "gambetear" the opponents), who some times get the ball and turn with it, could get a good value
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Re: Nereo CHAMPAGNE

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Re: Nereo Champagne

Postby Scaramuso » 2013 Jun 18, 16:36

Excellent year of Nereo in Olimpo, the Less defeated fence of the B Nacional, had a excellent performance/regularity and his team obtained the ascent, i think that deserve increase some points DEF/GK/RESP/IT and especially in form (6-7).
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Re: Nereo Champagne

Postby Scaramuso » 2013 Sep 23, 13:48





Scaramuso wrote:Excellent year of Nereo in Olimpo, the Less defeated fence of the B Nacional, had a excellent performance/regularity and his team obtained the ascent, i think that deserve increase some points DEF/GK/RESP/IT and especially in form (6-7).


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Re: Nereo Champagne

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Re: Nereo Champagne

Postby Paablito » 2014 Feb 08, 18:56

I don't think he deserves better values in gks, maybe one point more looking in the ladders but isn't a drastic changed. Also with that value in agi is capable to do really nice turns in the pitch, something like 71 could be fine, showed pretty nice response and good resources on the line.
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Re: Nereo Champagne

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Re: Nereo Champagne

Postby Vickingo » 2014 Mar 18, 11:32

He's being great in Olimpo this season, his response is really great as he showed in there, probably their best player with Cerutti and Gil.

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