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Jorge Ivan Estrada

Postby PES Stats Database » 2010 May 16, 03:55

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Jorge Ivan Estrada is the hardest working player in the Mexican league. He always gives intensity and leaves his heart in the pitch with determination. He could play as a side midfielder, but he is more useful in the side back because he has more stamina to cover the entire right side. He defense with determination and his marking is tight. Many people believe he should have received a chance to play with Mexico.

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Re: Jorge Ivan Estrada, Santos Laguna

Postby ballack13 » 2010 May 16, 04:28

I've honestly never seen this guy but these stats might be a bit overated.

If he was really this good, how could he possibly not get a call up by Mexico?

Also man marking seems rather odd for a sideback...
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Re: Jorge Ivan Estrada, Santos Laguna

Postby pandaleon » 2010 May 16, 05:16

Ill give you the man marking, but I thought man marking was about keeping a tight mark on players. He plays an important role for Santos Laguna and the fans love him. Now that Santos Laguna made the final of the Mexican League, take a look at him. I think Edgar Castillo is overrated. Guty is a more effective player all round. But we can ask why Pavel Pardo didn't received a call to Mexico and Bautista did?
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Re: Jorge Ivan Estrada, Santos Laguna

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2010 May 16, 15:10

Estrada is very good at the defensive duties, but I think he can deserves at higher DEF, decrease his ATK and remove marking.
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Re: Jorge Ivan Estrada, Santos Laguna

Postby ballack13 » 2010 May 16, 22:21

pandaleon wrote:Ill give you the man marking, but I thought man marking was about keeping a tight mark on players. He plays an important role for Santos Laguna and the fans love him. Now that Santos Laguna made the final of the Mexican League, take a look at him. I think Edgar Castillo is overrated. Guty is a more effective player all round. But we can ask why Pavel Pardo didn't received a call to Mexico and Bautista did?


Fair enough, I have the Santos match recorded, I'll check him out later today :)
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Re: Jorge Ivan ESTRADA, Santos Laguna

Postby ballack13 » 2010 May 18, 18:03

Ok I got a chance to see this guy in action.

Now I understand your stats better. He is a good little player and quite quick. Hustles a lot.

Attack definitely can come down. 74 is quite high for a sb. How about 71-72?

Also I think you underestimated his mentality. As you wrote, he works extremely hard, never stops running. 78 mentality doesn't reflect this. I'd say something like 90 might be good for him. I only saw him once but he does run his ass off and judging from what you say, he does that every game...

Also 84 aggression is too high. He doesn't seem to attack that much. That's like Danny Alves/Lahm level.

Maybe 80?
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Re: Jorge Ivan ESTRADA, Santos Laguna

Postby ballack13 » 2010 May 18, 18:42

Weird he hasn't been called up. Aguilar doesn't seem that great. This guy looks like a better player to me.
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Re: Jorge Ivan ESTRADA, Santos Laguna

Postby pandaleon » 2010 May 18, 21:16

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Yes, I guess Aguirre doesn't like little players.
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Re: Jorge Ivan ESTRADA

Postby soccermaniakk » 2013 Mar 18, 19:21

Any thoughts on this set its really outdated, Defense value seems kinda high.. also from my notes (not recent) I had him on 90 for stamina
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Re: Jorge Ivan ESTRADA

Postby pandaleon » 2013 Mar 18, 19:44

I have his defense on 70 because his defense is good but not what he use to be because before he didnt go with many feints. I agree on 90 for stamina never seems tired in games. His SPS could go down to 70 and his LPS 75 because his passing dont have much weight on them and passing is more accurate than fast.
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Re: Jorge Ivan ESTRADA

Postby pandaleon » 2013 Aug 18, 19:40

Still dont know why he doesnt get more chances in the national team.

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Re: Jorge Ivan ESTRADA

Postby soccermaniakk » 2013 Aug 19, 23:56

honestly he can be the right back mexico has been needing....
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