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Johan Elmander

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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby GavidTreveguet » 2008 Dec 16, 16:13

Shouldn't his shot accuracy be higher than this? Particularly at Bolton, he seems quite clinical in front of goal. 82 perhaps?
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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby Tom » 2008 Dec 16, 16:18

GavidTreveguet wrote:Shouldn't his shot accuracy be higher than this? Particularly at Bolton, he seems quite clinical in front of goal. 82 perhaps?


That would be an interesting suggestion to discuss.

I also feel that his Header value has been harshly valued, as I said on the previous site, this was one of his main qualities at Toulouse and he made many numerous headers that showed decent placement and power. I'd have had it round the 86 mark
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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby WayneThePayne » 2008 Dec 16, 17:09

I actually think he is faster than this but not that quick. When he hits top gear he's unstoppable (combined with his strength), but it takes a while.

Top speed: 86
Acceleration: 83
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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby Tom » 2009 May 26, 08:19

Made some tweaks
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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby KeyserSoze » 2009 Jun 23, 01:58

I doubt about his scoring ability, as he only scored 5 in 31 league games for Bolton. And he just had decent numbers for
Toulouse (11 goals in each one of the 2 seasons he played for TFC). It's because he tends to run down the flanks to become a fake WF to assist Davies or anyone who is in the opposition box, specially if the team is losing, so I would increase his mentality to 78-80
And I would also remove his Scoring ability.
The rest of his stats are OK according to me.
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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby devileh » 2009 Jun 27, 03:14

Why does he *Scoring?
As far as I've been told, this guy doesn't fit the *Scoring requirements.
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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby BECKS23LA » 2009 Jun 29, 15:32

agree with the removal of Scoing*
and btw TS and Header must go down
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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby Alcohomicide » 2009 Jun 29, 17:29

BECKS23LA wrote:agree with the removal of Scoing*
and btw TS and Header must go down


Because?
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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby BECKS23LA » 2009 Jun 29, 17:39

fuck, why u are always searching for reasons god damn it! it's quite clear
for *Scoring MaxPower explain it well!
for speed he is no way faster than Anderson, Piennar, Silva,...
and pls don't tell me b.s. like they have better ACC or he is faster over long distance coz abviously he isn't!

for Header he is no way on par with Heskey, 86 is just a joke :lol:
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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby Vandeach » 2009 Jun 29, 17:41

Yeah Alco why are you searching for reasons, why would we need reasons :lol:?
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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby The_Red_Devil » 2009 Jun 29, 17:41

BECKS23LA wrote:fuck, why u are always searching for reasons god damn it!
for *Scoring MaxPower explain it well!
for speed he is by anyway faster than Anderson, Piennar, Silva,...
and pls don't tell me b.s. like they have better ACC or he is faster over long distance coz abviously he isn't!

for Header he is no way on par with Heskey, 86 is just a joke :lol:

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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby BECKS23LA » 2009 Jun 29, 17:42

why some members suggest values without explanations and they got many agreed ? :shock: :? :o
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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby BECKS23LA » 2009 Jun 29, 17:45

@ The_Red_Devil : ok as u like:

for Speed he is not faster than Santa Cruz or Pavlyuchenko !
for header: same explanation
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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby Vandeach » 2009 Jun 29, 17:47

He is quite obviously faster than Santa Cruz, tbh :|.
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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby Alcohomicide » 2009 Jun 29, 17:48

I don't know how Serie A or the Die Bundesliga or any other league works, but here in the Prem we like constructive reasoning. :lol:

You don't just pluck a value out of thin air and say "there you go" the funny thing is I was thinking he's maybe a bit incorrect too, but rather than just post a meaningless value or something, I'm going to wait a bit so I can scout him properly. ;) (Which means...-gulp- watching more Bolton :'()
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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby Paddy » 2009 Jun 29, 19:01

Top Speed: 1

He's clearly not faster than ronaldo so we've to make sure ronaldo goes faster.
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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby devileh » 2009 Jun 30, 22:21

Yes, joking aside, I still question his *Scoring.
Anyone want to defend it? He had 5 goals for Bolton this season. accoring to the stats I found.
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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby Ken » 2009 Jul 05, 03:49

devileh wrote:Yes, joking aside, I still question his *Scoring.
Anyone want to defend it? He had 5 goals for Bolton this season. accoring to the stats I found.


I'm not trying to disagree about this, but the thing is... I think you can't remove *Scoring from him just because he had a single season without scoring a decent number of goals. I don't know why we gave him *Scoring in the first place since I found out that his goal tally at Brondby and Toulouse are not that impressive, but now that he already has it the best solution IMO is to wait for maybe at least until the end of next season to discuss about it.
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Re: Johan ELMANDER

Postby devileh » 2009 Jul 05, 12:46

The two seasons before that he had 11 goals for his club. Hardly groundbreaking. If 11 goals in a season is all it takes, then a lot of other players should have the *Scoring aswell.
I say remove it.

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