Cesc Fàbregas | 2003-2006 | 2008-2011 | 2011-2012


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Cesc Fàbregas | 2003-2006 | 2008-2011 | 2011-2012

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Sep 25, 11:21

Club: FC Barcelona


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Club: Arsenal FC


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Re: Cesc FABREGAS | 2003-2005

Postby Nrby » 2009 Sep 25, 15:02

Vandeach wrote:*Playmaking :lol:?


not at 17 :P ... passing at most for that period :)
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Re: Cesc FABREGAS | 2003-2005

Postby BigStu » 2009 Sep 25, 15:37

sorry forgot to sort out the Stars
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Re: Cesc FABREGAS | 2003-2005

Postby ral2009 » 2009 Sep 26, 02:26

I am not sure that his SPA and LPA were that good already. Maybe both can be lowered by 1 or 2 points.
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Re: Cesc FABREGAS | 2003-2005 & 2009-2010

Postby Yazid » 2012 Mar 03, 14:47

His SPA and Tech are both higher than current fab, his SPA is 4 points higher...surely not. It may have been better, but I see it at 92 max imo.
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Re: Cesc FABREGAS | 2003-2005 & 2009-2010

Postby Brahms » 2012 Oct 09, 01:39

don't you think the set from 2002-2005 could be revised? i don't remember really well those days, but i see him with more attack, probably greens, more teamwork, maybe update his passing stats?
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Re: Cesc FABREGAS | 2003-2005 & 2009-2010 & 2011-2012

Postby jurgens » 2012 Oct 14, 03:09

Overhauled the 2009-2011 set.
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Re: Cesc FABREGAS | 2003-2005 & 2009-2011 & 2011-2012

Postby vinnie » 2012 Nov 23, 10:40

he might even deserve that red tw like we were talking about before, in terms of his value to the team, he was pretty massive. not sure, but it's what i feel from watching his arsenal days.
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Re: Cesc FABREGAS | 2003-2005 & 2009-2011 & 2011-2012

Postby bitz » 2012 Nov 23, 13:02

I'll just go with Konami's way for him, lower TW in Arsenal, higher in Barca. Wondering if Iniesta would get a red TW if he was playing for Arsenal/Arsenal tactics.
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Re: Cesc FABREGAS | 2003-2005 & 2009-2011 & 2011-2012

Postby jurgens » 2012 Nov 23, 13:16

@bitz he had 95 TW for arsenal in pes 2010. Could you give a reason why he desrves 95 TW for barcas? I've really tried to come up with a reason he deserves it in barca, but I just can't think of why he should have it.
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Re: Cesc FABREGAS | 2003-2005

Postby manhquyetlhp » 2013 Jun 02, 05:15

Nrby wrote:
Vandeach wrote:*Playmaking :lol:?


not at 17 :P ... passing at most for that period :)

I think teamwork = 90. Teamwork = 71 very low!
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Re: Cesc Fàbregas | 2003-2005 | 2008-2011 | 2011-2012

Postby ballmer » 2017 Mar 17, 14:24

Did he ever deserve green speed? Or yellow agility? Even response, does it need to be close to yellow? I dunno... He's one of the best final passers I've seen in the PL. Both SPA and LPA can be above 90 imo. But speed, agility, 'sharpness' in terms of reactions... Notable weaknesses, surely. His current set represents this, but are these weakenesses really anything new...?
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Re: Cesc Fàbregas | 2003-2005 | 2008-2011 | 2011-2012

Postby ballmer » 2017 Jul 12, 09:42

ballmer wrote:Did he ever deserve green speed? Or yellow agility? Even response, does it need to be close to yellow? I dunno... He's one of the best final passers I've seen in the PL. Both SPA and LPA can be above 90 imo. But speed, agility, 'sharpness' in terms of reactions... Notable weaknesses, surely. His current set represents this, but are these weakenesses really anything new...?


Just giving myself a bump - wondered if anyone had any thoughts on this?
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Re: Cesc Fàbregas | 2003-2005 | 2008-2011 | 2011-2012

Postby vinnie » 2017 Jul 13, 04:00

ballmer wrote:
ballmer wrote:Did he ever deserve green speed? Or yellow agility? Even response, does it need to be close to yellow? I dunno... He's one of the best final passers I've seen in the PL. Both SPA and LPA can be above 90 imo. But speed, agility, 'sharpness' in terms of reactions... Notable weaknesses, surely. His current set represents this, but are these weakenesses really anything new...?


Just giving myself a bump - wondered if anyone had any thoughts on this?


i've been in the process of watching scholes between 03-09, i'll keep what you've said about fabregas in mind and if there are any matches where fabregas is against scholes i'll pay attention to his speed.

though i have a bit of hesitation about what set or era are you referring to, are you referring to 2008-11 or are you referring to 2003-05?
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Re: Cesc Fàbregas | 2003-2005 | 2008-2011 | 2011-2012

Postby ballmer » 2017 Jul 13, 09:56

I was referring to 08-11. In general, I think he's always been distinctly less mobile, nimble, sharp, than his Spanish midfield counterparts. Just a thought. I dunno, looking again, maybe these values are in fact sufficiently limited. I'd not comment on 03-05, as I'm not familiar with him from that period.
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Re: Cesc Fàbregas | 2003-2005 | 2008-2011 | 2011-2012

Postby Whoah10115 » 2019 Apr 19, 17:12

Just wanted to confirm that Cesc Fabregas is not as good a long passer as Paul Pogba.


People, we can do so much better than that lol.

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