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Ceyhun Gülselam, Kardemir Karabükspor

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Jul 04, 14:05


Last edited by general suvorov on 2009 Dec 28, 17:59, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Ceyhun Gülselam

Postby Jaxinho » 2009 Jul 15, 00:19

This dude got really hard shot!

I would say around 88-89.
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Re: Ceyhun Gülselam

Postby Jaxinho » 2009 Aug 14, 00:26

This man has really a hard shot. Really impressing me with his hammer. They gave even on this forum to Van Persie 91 what is really too much for me. I rather to give Ceyhun 91 then Van Persie.
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Re: Ceyhun Gülselam

Postby A-SK » 2009 Aug 14, 01:13

Don't know about that. Laits wait and see what will happen this season with him. He realy is an amazing player to watch. I'm tempted to switch his attack/defence ration around. He seems to love going forward, even more so than defending.
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Re: Ceyhun Gülselam

Postby Jaxinho » 2009 Aug 14, 01:59

A-SK wrote:Don't know about that. Laits wait and see what will happen this season with him. He realy is an amazing player to watch. I'm tempted to switch his attack/defence ration around. He seems to love going forward, even more so than defending.


Not a very special goal but u can easily see he got more shot power then 84.



I watched Trabzonspor`s high lights from past week and 1 of his powerful shots turned from the crossbar and just after that he also scored a nice goal.

His shot power is betwenn 87-89 to me. Got a friend who is a Trabzonspor supporter and his saying since Hami there is not a so powerful shooter in the team. Dont know about that but also Selcuk got a good hard shot.
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Re: Ceyhun Gülselam

Postby general suvorov » 2009 Oct 18, 20:32

he's very special player. I have some suggestions that I've been keeping them for a long time to be sure :D

Attack: 69-70
Defence: 73
Top Speed: 80
Acceleration: 76
Short Pass Accuracy: 76
Short Pass Speed: 78
Shot Accuracy: 69
Shot Power: 88
Shot Technique: 71
Technique: 76
Mentality: 80
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Re: Ceyhun Gülselam

Postby A-SK » 2009 Oct 18, 20:44

sounds reasonable, but try and explain your suggestions. updating the first post without explaining your suggestions is highly inconsiderate. people need to know why he's being given a boost in certain areas. lets wait and see what melo, zeta or anyone else wants to say about the suggestions before you update anything ;)
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Re: Ceyhun Gülselam

Postby general suvorov » 2009 Oct 18, 21:47

general suvorov wrote:he's very special player. I have some suggestions that I've been keeping them for a long time to be sure :D

Attack: 69-70
Defence: 73
Top Speed: 80
Acceleration: 76
Short Pass Accuracy: 76
Short Pass Speed: 78
Shot Accuracy: 69
Shot Power: 88
Shot Technique: 71
Technique: 76
Mentality: 80


here I go. First of the att/def rates. Actually with his current role in Trabzonspor he gives the impression of solid DM who likes to sits back and meet the attacks of opponent. That's pretty normal view if we consider that he replaced Hüseyin Çimşir who does anything but gladiator job in defense as a DM. However if we consider the way how Terim used him is pretty much different than it.

When he was played as DM with Emre B. he was assigned to the duties of Ayhan Akman which allowed him to involve in the attacks more than he does in Trabzonspor. As long as he has 67 aggression I think he should get 69 or 70 in attack. And for defending I think he can go up one point higher than Mustafa Sarp as he can also play as CB. Especially in 1-on-1 duels he can be very affective by using his tackling skills which we can also observe his determination while struggling. That's why I suggested 80 for mentality.

To be honest I have the same impression that I got when I watched Mehmet Topal for the first time. But actually he seems he can get better than Topal. He has soft touch for a guy in his built and he's a safe passer. Which imo would put him in the line between Hürriyet Güçer (74 SPA) and Cristian Baroni (that we agreed to give him) has 78 SPA. For that reason 76 SPA to 78 SPS seems to me accurate values for his class. (Remember his assist to Colman against Galatasaray).

Despite his build he actually give me the impression that he can be really fast on the heights, especially observing him running after his opponents in counter attacks. So comparing him with DMs like Uğur Inceman or Mustafa Sarp imo his speed can go up to 80 while acc stays at 76.

And for SA, ST and SP. These figures are also the main reason why he makes differences among other Turkish DMs. The shooting ability of him allows him to fire rockets like Mehmet Topuz. Especially on FKs.
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Ceyhun Gülselam

Postby bjk_melo_151 » 2009 Nov 14, 19:42

general suvorov wrote:he's very special player. I have some suggestions that I've been keeping them for a long time to be sure :D

Attack: 69-70
Defence: 73
Top Speed: 80
Acceleration: 76
Short Pass Accuracy: 76
Short Pass Speed: 78
Shot Accuracy: 69
Shot Power: 88
Shot Technique: 71
Technique: 76
Mentality: 80


69 for Attack
78 for Response
83 for Stamina
88 is very good choice for SP
70 for Aggression
78 for TW
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Re: Ceyhun Gülselam

Postby general suvorov » 2009 Dec 28, 17:59

updated Ceyhun!
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Re: Ceyhun Gülselam

Postby A-SK » 2010 Jan 15, 01:16

this guy is basically the turkish equivalent of vincent kompany. the resemblance is down to their ball distribution and overall similar style of play. i really think his ground passing ability should be raised to 79 and speed be 80, just like vicent kompany. ceyhun is a better ball distributor than semih senturk but can't really pull off complex passes like colman, selcuk inan or even tjikuzu. i can comfortably say that he has more range in his passing than christian from fenerbahce. at this moment, ernst's passing ability should be dropped to 81.
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Re: Ceyhun Gülselam

Postby general suvorov » 2010 Aug 10, 17:00

I think Ceyhun had a brilliant season. 38 games 4 goals and 1 assist. Besides he booked only 4 times and never sent off. He adapted well to the system of Şenol Güneş and became a part of TSL's best midfield tandem with Selçuk Inan.

His attacking sense deserves to be higher than Selçuk Şahin and Mustafa Sarp imo. I think he can do with 70 but even though he opted only as DMF, he I think did better job than Fink who was assigned to more attacking role than him. I believe his attack can go up to 71.

For the defence, among Turkish defensive midfielders I rate him more or less equal to Mehmet Topal. So defence can go up to 74 or 75. I don't think 71 attack and 75 defence would make him too good as it would probably make him more or less equal to Jan Rajnoch in terms of defence and ony on point higher than Mustafa Sarp or Fink. But still if someone says neither his defence nor his attack better than Fink, I'd suggest raising his attack to 70.

His stamina is definetly higher than Cristian Baroni and Ayhan Akman. But I think the max value he would get would be 85. Baroni and Ayhan to be dropped. They both don't deserve to be sitting higher than 84.

Response shall be definetly higher cuz he has clean booking record, and his timing in tackles are impressive. I'd suggest 80 one point below Topal.

His overall passing needs to be raised. This guy has very long range in his ground passes and crosses. As ali suggested before, 79 or 78 for SPA and 83 for SPA (one point higher than Baroni) would be suitable. And for his crosses I think something like 76 LPA and 82 LPS would be better. It would make him like Hakan Balta or Sabri.

Apart from that I believe he can get one point raise in DA and Tech. His close control is better than Topal. It can be even par with Sarp or Selçuk Şahin. And first touch is better than Sarp. 76/77 DA and 77 tech would be cool.

Team work shall be higher than likes of Sarp and Selçuk Şahin. I believe a value like 80 would be sufficient.

Attack: 71 ?
Defence: 74/75 ?
Stamina: 85
Response: 80
Dribble Accuracy: 76/77
Short Pass Accuracy: 78 / 79 ?
Short Pass Speed: 83
Long Pass Accuracy: 76
Long Pass Speed: 82
Shot Technique: 74
Technique: 77
Teamwork: 80
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Re: Ceyhun Gülselam

Postby general suvorov » 2010 Oct 03, 22:14

updated: att-def-sta-resp-da-spa-sps-lpa-lps-st-tech-tw

let me know if anything needs to be changing
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Postby bjk_melo_151 » 2010 Oct 03, 22:20

very good update. I offer 79 for jump, maybe tech can go up +1. I have no offer for others because all of them are very nice.
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Postby bjk_melo_151 » 2011 Jun 10, 18:34

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Re: CEYHUN Gülselam

Postby A-SK » 2011 Jun 13, 00:35

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Re: CEYHUN Gülselam

Postby general suvorov » 2012 Jul 22, 20:53

gave ceyhun gülselam an overall update. I'm glad he is still part of Gala rotation as he is one of the few defensive midfielders with decent shooting abilities.
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Re: CEYHUN Gülselam

Postby general suvorov » 2012 Dec 01, 12:24

fixed cards and updated Ceyhun
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Re: CEYHUN Gülselam

Postby PIPA23 » 2013 Jan 10, 23:02

loaned to Kayserispor:
http://www.kayserispor.org.tr/tur/hdetay.asp?id=1490

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