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Roberto Cereceda, O´Higgins

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Apr 05, 23:55


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Re: Roberto CERECEDA, Colo-Colo

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Apr 06, 03:08

There is A LOT wrong with these stats :(
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA, Colo-Colo

Postby checho18 » 2009 Apr 06, 05:06

jmg721 wrote:There is A LOT wrong with these stats :(



Can you post your suggestions?? please.

I think this stats are good. Besides, I see Colo-Colo's matches every week and I had seen Cereceda by 2 or 3 years in the chilean league and in the Libertadores Cup since he was in Audax Italiano.
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA, Colo-Colo

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Apr 06, 05:18

Okay, I will first state I am NOT familiar with this player....just stats making.

For a registered WB a lot of these stats seem off:

Attack: 65(that is a high value for a CB...but for a WB or SB...that is REALLY low)
Defence: 78(This is WORLD CLASS for a SB...let alone a WB.)
Response: 71(IMO people who have this low must be slightly retarded, and totally unaware of the game...is that him?)
Long Pass Accuracy: 71(is his crossing really this poor?)
Long Pass Speed: 69(does he get NO distance on crosses?)
Shot Power: 71(try this out in the game, and tell me if this is a fair value)
Curving: 83(so his curl is really good...but his long passing is THAT bad?)
Aggression: 72(for a WB an 80+ is common for AGG)

I truely believe you know these players well...but there is a lot to understand with stats making....and I feel you might not fully understand what all categories mean yet. Which is understandable. I am still learning the effects of stats on gameplay.
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA, Colo-Colo

Postby checho18 » 2009 Apr 06, 05:59

jmg721 wrote:Okay, I will first state I am NOT familiar with this player....just stats making.

For a registered WB a lot of these stats seem off:

Attack: 65(that is a high value for a CB...but for a WB or SB...that is REALLY low)
Defence: 78(This is WORLD CLASS for a SB...let alone a WB.)
Response: 71(IMO people who have this low must be slightly retarded, and totally unaware of the game...is that him?)
Long Pass Accuracy: 71(is his crossing really this poor?)
Long Pass Speed: 69(does he get NO distance on crosses?)
Shot Power: 71(try this out in the game, and tell me if this is a fair value)
Curving: 83(so his curl is really good...but his long passing is THAT bad?)
Aggression: 72(for a WB an 80+ is common for AGG)

I truely believe you know these players well...but there is a lot to understand with stats making....and I feel you might not fully understand what all categories mean yet. Which is understandable. I am still learning the effects of stats on gameplay.


Ok, I'll explain you my stats.
Attack: Cereceda is a player that isn't an especiallist in the offensive game. His trainers prefer him because he defends good and because he delivers good the ball
Defense: Cereceda is good defending in the midfield and in the defense.
Response: He isn't good in response, but he supplies that with good ubication in defense. But I think you are right and i'll modificate that
Long Pass Accuracy and Speed: Cereceda don't use the long pass because he prefers delivers correctly the ball and because he is bad in that game facet.
Shot power: Cereceda has a poor shot and he practically doesn't make goals
Curving: He is good in this point. With this quality he supplies his low shot power and he can make accurate passes
Aggression: well, i had explain that he isn't good going to attack

I hope that you understand my reasons. Besides i hope that you understand the game of Cereceda. He is a very "tactical" player, good defender, not so good attacking and he prefers delivers good passes instead a long pass.
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA, Colo-Colo

Postby jmg721 » 2009 May 28, 05:13

Notes from a couple NT matches:
*LB 4 Cereceda - quality res/Good attack/good TW/solid DA/pretty decent LPA/ave to solid LPS/solid curl/ave jump/low to ave BB/quality passing/going to do give and go's to get past defenders...not use dribbles/a bad touch or miscontrol/*Side/
Cereceda in for Iturra 46' - LWB?/Not weak/solid Dribbling/vvery left footed/pretty good 1st touch...took people on with his DS, and did well/nicely placed cross/a poor res play/


Here are my minimal suggestions following watching him play and listening to your reasoning. A few things I need to point out. 73DEF is a good values for a WB....and for a player to play good defensivly...a good res is necessary. 76res is still POOR...but considering you orginally had him at 71..I thought I'd give you the benefit of the doubt. I thought his crosses were weak, but pretty accurate..don't know why you had LPA71. He looked very good in attack in those matches, and IMO he was more attack minded than defensive. So I personally would have likely had 73att/70def...but I again am taking your word for it.

Check out my values:
Attack: 70(+5)
Defence: 73(-5)
Response: 76(+2)
Long Pass Accuracy: 75(+4)
Long Pass Speed: 72(+3)
Shot Power: 76(+5)
Curving: 79(-4)
Aggression: 78(+6)
Dribble Accuracy: 80(-2)
Dribble Speed: 81(+5)
Jump: 73(-2)
Balance: 73(+3)
Weak Foot Frequency: 3(-1)
Technique: 81(-1)
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA, Colo-Colo

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Jun 20, 02:34

Fix stats.....
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA, Colo-Colo

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2009 Jul 08, 16:20

Maybe you can update him, he doesn't answer yet...
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA, Colo-Colo

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Jul 08, 16:55

mine were just guesses based on site standards. Do you know this player? If so, can you make suggestions or confirm mine :)
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA, Colo-Colo

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2009 Jul 08, 18:08

I agree with all your suggestions, specially SP.
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA, Colo-Colo

Postby jmg721 » 2009 Jul 08, 18:56

updated!! 8-)
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA, Colo-Colo

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2009 Jul 09, 12:15

Now looks better.
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA

Postby Akron » 2009 Dec 19, 01:45

He grew up a lot... but his SP were never good...

First of all, he is 25 yo and plays as a SB or SMF in some games for NT.

BB: 75 (He is not so weak)
TS: 83
AC: 84-85 (Very quick but not accurate asa you can see down)
Dribble Accuracy: 77
Dribble Speed: 83
Short Pass Accuracy: 74 (I dont know if he is too accelerate to do this or what but arent good)
Short Pass Speed: 77 (Same as before he is quick to do this)
Long Pass Accuracy: 76
Long Pass Speed: 77
Free Kick Accuracy: 65 (I don't know what is the default value but i never saw him shootin' a FK)
Aggression: 81 (By this days he goes a lot to other side with no fear)
Condition: 6-7 (Of 90 Games of Colo-colo he played in 60+ and 24 for NT in 3 years)
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA

Postby maestrillo » 2009 Dec 26, 07:56

Akron wrote:He grew up a lot... but his SP were never good...

First of all, he is 25 yo and plays as a SB or SMF in some games for NT.

BB: 75 (He is not so weak)
TS: 83
AC: 84-85 (Very quick but not accurate asa you can see down)
Dribble Accuracy: 77
Dribble Speed: 83
Short Pass Accuracy: 74 (I dont know if he is too accelerate to do this or what but arent good)
Short Pass Speed: 77 (Same as before he is quick to do this)
Long Pass Accuracy: 76
Long Pass Speed: 77
Free Kick Accuracy: 65 (I don't know what is the default value but i never saw him shootin' a FK)
Aggression: 81 (By this days he goes a lot to other side with no fear)
Condition: 6-7 (Of 90 Games of Colo-colo he played in 60+ and 24 for NT in 3 years)


About his FK stats i saw him scoring by FK
http://partidoscompletos.blogspot.com/
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA

Postby Akron » 2009 Dec 26, 19:39

Sorry about that, but the rest of stats aren't updated. Let's see him in the new season.
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2009 Dec 27, 06:39

I've update him a little bit.
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA

Postby Akron » 2009 Dec 27, 16:17

It's OK now.

This player have quick moves but all aren't accurates. This set represents him better.
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA

Postby manoloxcr17 » 2009 Dec 27, 18:51

Yes. :)

BTW his response should be higher? What do you think? I mean...his game reading is decent, so maybe an 78?
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA

Postby Rated-R » 2009 Dec 27, 18:59

think his defense is very high I see it more as an offensive than defensive side, in my opinion should down to defense 70 and attack raising slightly to 71 or 72
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Re: Roberto CERECEDA

Postby Akron » 2009 Dec 29, 03:05

mm, i think on pair with manoloxcr17, Response can be at least 78. 76 is a bit low for him.

Respect with his ATT/DEF stats i think that should be something like this...

Attack: 73
Defense: 69-70

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