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Re: João Mário

Postby Breeze » 2016 Sep 10, 09:41

And as mentioned here before, he would need a raise in stamina and response too.
And lastly, his height is 178 or 179 as some sites say. Just look at his presentation at Inter where he stands next to Zanetti (1.78)
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Re: João Mário

Postby Epsi » 2016 Sep 12, 09:24

teamwork is 85 at very least. Really all-round player, very refined technically.
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Re: João Mário

Postby antony » 2016 Sep 12, 13:46

Epsi wrote:teamwork is 85 at very least. Really all-round player, very refined technically.


what about body balance? Only I think that he is strong and really difficult to move for the opponent?
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Re: João Mário

Postby Luisao82 » 2016 Sep 12, 14:34

antony wrote:
Epsi wrote:teamwork is 85 at very least. Really all-round player, very refined technically.


what about body balance? Only I think that he is strong and really difficult to move for the opponent?


More like AGILITY, instead of BB. He's easily 82.
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Re: João Mário

Postby jurgens » 2016 Sep 15, 18:28

antony wrote:
Epsi wrote:teamwork is 85 at very least. Really all-round player, very refined technically.


what about body balance? Only I think that he is strong and really difficult to move for the opponent?



Yeah for sure. I've been studying him and andre gomes since seasons end and hes the type of player who gets better the more you watch. For sure hes very sturdy, never really see him go down, and outside of a chop or something of the like, uses very little agility, stays on his feet and holds the ball with smart, but very straight forward retention, nothing to fancy... I think BB is quite important to him. I have him at 79 from notes on him, but I'm not settled on any value as I think he may be higher. His stamina is without doubts immense, he plays on the wings and on the center and outside the box and covers so much ground and even intensely. I'm sure hes a bit faster than this too.
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Re: João Mário

Postby Luisao82 » 2016 Sep 16, 05:47

Now that you talked about it, he does display a "straight forward retention", more than great Agility.
Though in some movements, he does show decent Agility... not by making fancy body turns or anything, but by the way he evades a tackle showing nimble feet and good body coordination.

I guess my suggested 82 would distort his style a bit. Nevertheless, I'm not sure whether focusing on BB rather than anything else wouldn't distort it either. I see his current value (76) as very close to what he deserves, as he doesn't exactly use pure strength to overcome the physical challenges.
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Re: João Mário

Postby antony » 2016 Sep 18, 19:54

Really solid permorfance against Juventus, seems like he always know how to do in all situations. High stamina, high workrate and quality long passes i say.
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Re: João Mário

Postby Luisao82 » 2016 Sep 18, 21:43

Good vision and refined long (and short) passing accuracy.

Always makes himself available to receive a pass, takes the responsability of having the ball and links well with his teammates. TW has to go up, definitely.
And probably DA, as well. I'd put DA and TEC in the same level.
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Re: João Mário

Postby CHarper » 2016 Sep 19, 14:25

antony wrote:Really solid permorfance against Juventus, seems like he always know how to do in all situations. High stamina, high workrate and quality long passes i say.


I saw a little disoriented at times in the, field appeared everywhere but no real or net function.
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Re: João Mário

Postby Korinov » 2016 Sep 20, 09:42

He has pretty decent skills but I'm with CHarper on this one.
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Re: João Mário

Postby Luisao82 » 2016 Sep 20, 15:00

Still adapting to the team dynamics, yes.
But just like he did in the first game, he was very adept at creating spaces. Like antony said, he was generally (and is) a quick thinker and executed with relative precision. That's hardly how a "disoriented" player performs.
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Re: João Mário

Postby jurgens » 2016 Dec 13, 12:35

Hes really a fantastic player, just the sort of player Inter needs. Endless energy and work rate, great retention play, agressive dribbling and good vision and passing accuracy to link up the play, strong and determined too.
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Re: João Mário

Postby antony » 2016 Dec 13, 21:16

If you remember i was agree with balance raise, but following him costantly i can say that Luisao82 was right he is quite weak in duels, is more about intelligence/technique to retain the ball. In other hand, his legs seems so strong when starts to run with the ball, keep the eyes on his dribble speed.. because has shown really good one in the game vs Genoa for example.. maybe can better better than the current 80.
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Re: João Mário

Postby jurgens » 2016 Dec 14, 11:30

I see the opposite really with his balance, he shurgs off people pretty easily when they get into duels with him... pretty sure he did that in his run for brozos goal, I'll keep an eye on it. I feel the same for ds, but I don't have a problem with his current either.
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Re: João Mário

Postby antony » 2017 Feb 12, 14:59

his ball control is just amazing, candidate for really high value.. in the other part he seems bit lazy at times.. stamina on 90 is too much for now imho
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Re: João Mário

Postby jurgens » 2017 Feb 14, 17:27

bit lazy?
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Re: João Mário

Postby antony » 2017 Feb 15, 14:31

jurgens wrote:bit lazy?


yes.. he hasn't this great work ethic, so discontinuos during the 90', playing 15 min world class and gets absent for the next 30/40.. He has the potential to be a total midfielder but still he isn't.
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Re: João Mário

Postby jurgens » 2017 Feb 15, 19:28

I don't think that has anything to do with his stamina though? I mean, he can be absent from possesion, sure, but hes still there moving around and doing a lot of pressuring work and tracking runs, his workrate is pretty insane imo.
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Re: João Mário

Postby antony » 2017 Feb 15, 19:37

jurgens wrote:I don't think that has anything to do with his stamina though? I mean, he can be absent from possesion, sure, but hes still there moving around and doing a lot of pressuring work and tracking runs, his workrate is pretty insane imo.


maybe is more about tenacity but that value put him in pair with Nainggolan that is a monster in this. i see him something like 86 in stamina
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Re: João Mário

Postby jurgens » 2017 Feb 15, 19:44

Naingoaln is only 90? :lol: I thought he was red, I don't agree with 86 either way, his work-rate and defensive tracking is way, way higher than that. Brozo makes more tackles and hounds people more, but he doesn't do as much defesnive covering and tracking and blocking lanes... his work rate is absolutely fantastic... honestly quite surpised you see him lower.

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