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Mame Diouf

Postby PES Stats Database » 2010 Jun 05, 20:09


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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby BigStu » 2010 Jun 07, 16:31

Haven't you studied biology at school


Just what I need to here the night before a major biology exam :cry:

Anway you are wrong humans stop growing at 18-20 years as this graph shows

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Human_Growth.png[img]

also you changed his height to 189cm which makes your arguement less convincing, though you convinced me, If the army doctor says he has than he has in my view

It sucks being short (I am only 5 ft 9), all my friends are growing, many of them are above 6ft (One of mine is the same as Peter Crouch), I barely grown in the last 2 years
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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby John » 2010 Jun 07, 17:45

Chelseakid08 wrote:
Haven't you studied biology at school


Just what I need to here the night before a major biology exam :cry:

LOL :lol: :lol: !!! i didn't know, good luck tomorrow
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Anway you are wrong humans stop growing at 18-20 years as this graph shows

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Human_Growth.png[img]


growth stops in b/w 18 to 22. depends on the hormone secretion, there are hormones secretion glands in our brain and in different body part that maintain our body metabolism, it is better to go to a doctor to consult, growth also depends on heredity that how ur father and mother are


Height wise, men are usually their full height by 21, but have potential to grow until 25


Boys stop growing anywhere between ages of 17 and 25. Please also understand that these age limits can be increased by up to 3 to 5 more years of growth for boys


when your puberty begins, which is usually between ages of 8 and 13 for girls, 10 and 15 for boys. The later your puberty begins – the longer you will continue to grow. By the way, during first two years from when the puberty starts, it is normal to expect a very active growth spurt for boys and girls. At this time they can gain as much as 3 to 5 inches (7cm – 12cm) per year.


Genes (microscopic particles that give our body instructions on how it should be developed) were inherited to us from our past generations through our parents and will be inherited from us to our children and future generations. Genes are responsible for the likeliness we have to our parents and close relatives because we share great number of them.
What is interesting, those instructions are more like directions or suggestions and are not “written in stone”. It means that you are an architect of not only your destiny but also your body. In fact, only about 80% of your height is due to genetics, and about 20% - due to other factors! Yes, an average person's height can be different as much as 14 inches (35 cm), or even more, depending on those other factors! In other words, if everything done wrong, a person's final height can be 14 inches shorter than if everything done right (starting from birth)! That is a huge difference!


Age. If a person’s puberty began 4 – 5 years ago, the pace of body’s growth decreases substantially. It does not mean that a person in his late teens or early–mid twenties is unlikely to grow. In fact, most people of that age who know secrets about how to grow taller, increase their growth greatly. It's just the impact of the program is more significant if it is done at younger age. In other words - the sooner you start - the closer you can get to your maximum height potential.

There is such a term as "bone age" which shows how mature your bones are. Your bone age may well be different from your real age, and the less mature your bones are (usually the result of delayed puberty) - the more time they have to grow, more mature - less time. To find-out, doctors usually take X-rays of bones and compare them with bone X-rays of an average person in your age.


How you were raised during first years of your life. You should understand that there are number of factors that not you, but your parents had control over since the moment of conception. It is very important to know especially for parents of a young child.


What about adults? Can a person increase height after bones were completely fused?

The answer is YES, it is possible, completely safely and naturally. Just keep in mind that after bone plates were fused, bones can no longer grow. There are other ways however to make it work. An average adult can permanently increase body's length by 1 – 2 inches (2.5 – 5 cm)

Chelseakid08 wrote:also you changed his height to 189cm which makes your arguement less convincing, though you convinced me, If the army doctor says he has than he has in my view

well we talked before after i posted the 175-186cm because i thought that i made a mistake about his height last year(i thought that he actually was 180cm) and he told me that he was 175cm and grew up taller

Chelseakid08 wrote:It sucks being short (I am only 5 ft 9), all my friends are growing, many of them are above 6ft (One of mine is the same as Peter Crouch), I barely grown in the last 2 years

i know how you feel, average Cypriot men height from 175-180cm and i am 173cm and my friends are 180cm+ !! and women, if they're 175cm and above and they wear high heels they're even taller than most of Cypriot men and they complaint about us (men) being short!!
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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby BigStu » 2010 Jun 07, 18:02

okay the looks like I am wrong after all

In my defence though I was talking generally, most people stop growing by the age of 20.

And thanks for the good luck
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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby John » 2010 Jun 07, 18:18

Yes i do believe that in general people's growth stops at 21-23 at least, but there are a lot of people who take hormones, or follow a specific diet or a specific lifestyle there is even man-made growth hormone received by series of injections estimated 8.000-12.000 pounds per year :shock: :shock: :shock: !!(i wouldn't go that far, i already have *it long enough 8-) :lol: :lol: )

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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby Paddy » 2010 Jun 07, 21:30

There's photographic proof he's not taller than 1st post. End of story.
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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby Spaceman » 2010 Jun 07, 23:21

Paddy wrote:I take it none of you have seen him play for a full 90 minutes.


It's pretty obvious that the majority of the users on this board have not seen him play 90 minutes. The Norwegian league is hardly well supported compared to the major european ones, but that doesn't mean we cannot doubt the set you have posted up. It's obvious people are going to be wary of a set for someone who is yet to prove he can perform in a top league. Just because you have seen him play 90 doesn't mean you are right and everyone cannot doubt your stats. There really isn't going to be much discussion either, this rather defeats the point of the forum no?

Bargain basement Saha? He's as fast, as strong and better in the air than Saha. Reaction, scoring star, pretty much both footed, and amongst the best headers (with a leap to match) in the Premier league. Seems a tad over-rated to me. Yes you will say you've seen him play, and I haven't? I'll admit all I've seen of him are a handful of sub appearances, but if the roles were reversed I'm pretty sure you would react in the same way as me.

Can the other premier league mods give us their thoughts on this?
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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby Paddy » 2010 Jun 08, 00:12

I didn't post my set on the forum due to people obviously going to doubt the abilities of a player who's gotten merely ample playing time for probably the biggest club in the world and sure there are doubts but, in time I'd be inclined to think that he'll prove them wrong, but surely to have a solid opinion on a player you should watch him in full matches, there's no doubt that the Norwegian league is sub standard to the EPL and by him having relatively low Attack and Response values for one of the most composed strikers and natural finishers in the Tippeligaen but to make him not as composed as in the TL I reduced these stats to a more realistic level. I'd also not consider the Shot Accuracy rating I've given him as great, not even one of a proven goalscorer in the EPL.

As for your argument on his heading, its simply Brilliant, I could run out of superlatives describing it, and as for his jumping ability think of Basketball players, its immense, sure if people don't trust the stats, I'd be delighted to delete them from here, its not as if getting my research on a player from a different league of which I didn't watch too often before Mame had moved to United but I do the the league is of a better standard than its made out to be, sure there are a few Norwegian's on the board and so hopefully they can have an input on the set.
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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby BigStu » 2010 Jun 08, 10:52

I don't doubt he as good as this, just though I'd mention
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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby zorb » 2010 Jun 10, 23:09

Paddy wrote:There's photographic proof he's not taller than 1st post. End of story.

There's another photographic proof :

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He obviously can't be 178cm. Maybe 185 finally. He is not so smaller than Tomkins (190cm) in the "MBD - defensive header" video.
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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby Paddy » 2010 Jun 11, 00:53

Theres no way theres a 7 cm gap between Diouf and Thioune considering Mahktar is leaning backwards.
http://www.imscouting.com/players/mame-biram-diouf/

179cm on here.
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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby zorb » 2010 Jun 11, 08:43

Watch the video, Thioune is really, really smaller. I don't know Diouf's real height, but he obviously can't be 178, even 179cm. Notice that Thioune is nearer from the camera than Diouf, so he logically appears a little higher than he really is. Both have the head leaning forward. I can't say Diouf is 7cm taller than Thioune, but he obviously is more than 2cm taller: click to view picture: Thioune & Diouf.

Tomkins (190cm) doesn't seem to be 11 or 12cm taller than Diouf. At this time on the video, they are at the same distance from camera: click to view picture: Tomkins (WHU) & Diouf.

I don't post those pictures to be boring, I just think that the height of this player is important considering his heading/jump abilities.
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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby iman » 2010 Jun 12, 07:33

this is a best pic of them in last year:

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he is very taller! i think at least 10cm!

http://www.vg.no/sport/fotball/norsk/ar ... tid=596552
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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby Ndrangheta » 2010 Jun 28, 13:26

I've seen all the matches this guy has played for molde (I'm a local fan of the club), and he's far from composed infront of goal. Infact he was probably the least composed striker in any starting 11 in the norwegian league when he played for Molde. Think the answer should be dropping his shot accuracy alot. But not his ST, as he could score goals from difficult angles. He's a better finisher with his head than his feet, and an -ok- target man. But his not especially good with his left foot (at least not in Molde).

Far from a good passer of the ball. His passing foot is not dead, But in general he made alot of bad decisions. He actually lacks vision on the field, and rearly saw teammates in better positions.

One thing i should point out is his work rate. Every time he played a winger he destroyed the opposition back, both offensively and defensively.

In general a hard working guy, blessed with speed and the right attitude, but might not be the most technical and might not have the best overview.

And also: Our captain, Daniel Berg Hestad, is 186cm and Mame's fellow countryman, Pape Pate Diouf is 187cm. He's as tall as these guys. And when he played for Molde his official height on their website was 186cm.
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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby zorb » 2010 Aug 10, 16:05

Updated his height/weight according to all we've said about it.

Height: 178>185cm
Weight: 72>81cm

(what we originally found on many websites)
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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby John » 2010 Aug 10, 16:21

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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby Gose_Chicharito14 » 2010 Aug 25, 12:14

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXVWoRSBOdI&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby zorb » 2010 Aug 25, 16:29

He confirms his header abilities.
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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby Paddy » 2010 Aug 28, 12:28

Ndrangheta wrote:I've seen all the matches this guy has played for molde (I'm a local fan of the club), and he's far from composed infront of goal. Infact he was probably the least composed striker in any starting 11 in the norwegian league when he played for Molde. Think the answer should be dropping his shot accuracy alot. But not his ST, as he could score goals from difficult angles. He's a better finisher with his head than his feet, and an -ok- target man. But his not especially good with his left foot (at least not in Molde).

Far from a good passer of the ball. His passing foot is not dead, But in general he made alot of bad decisions. He actually lacks vision on the field, and rearly saw teammates in better positions.

One thing i should point out is his work rate. Every time he played a winger he destroyed the opposition back, both offensively and defensively.

In general a hard working guy, blessed with speed and the right attitude, but might not be the most technical and might not have the best overview.

And also: Our captain, Daniel Berg Hestad, is 186cm and Mame's fellow countryman, Pape Pate Diouf is 187cm. He's as tall as these guys. And when he played for Molde his official height on their website was 186cm.


I have to question this guys evaluation. He clearly knows Mame, but how can he not see his passing ability?
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Re: Mame Biram DIOUF

Postby Ndrangheta » 2010 Sep 05, 17:38

would say he lacks a lot of vision on the pitch. soo many times he should have passed instead of having a go himself. he has great movement, but rarely orients himself towards his teammates. idk how his team work should be changed 2 reflect this =/

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