Mariano

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[bff]

i think he needs an update
what u think of:

Attack: 72
Agility: 79
Dribble Accuracy: 80
Jump: 72
Aggression: 83
Condition/Fitness: 7

he had improved alot since the end of 2009. he scored goals this year, gave more assistances and played all matches (excluding suspension by yellow cards)

[renatomm]

agree, and i believe TS, ACC and RES could go one point up
raise DS in two points, and AGI could be 81~82
also add WB to positions

[squallzinn]

Attack: 72
Top Speed: 83
Agility: 81
Dribble Speed: 83
Shot Power: 77
Curling: 78
Technique: 76

Disagree improve DA

[renatomm]

imo he needs a full update

[tamaguchi_japa]

for me too, but i dont follow fluminense so much for any update, any of u guys follow him or flu??

[squallzinn]

Attack: 74
Stamina: 84
Top Speed: 88
Acceleration: 86
Response: 78
Agility: 85
Dribble Speed: 84
Long Pass Speed: 78
Shot Power: 80
Shot Technique: 72
Free Kick Accuracy: 70
Curling: 79
Jump: 76
Aggression: 84
Mentality: 76
Team Work: 76


Form: 7
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot frequency: 4

P01 Overllaping Run
P06 Speed Merchance

[renatomm]

comparing him with Jonathan of Cruzeiro

Jonathan - Mariano
Attack: 75 - 70 == i believe they have the same so 75 for Mariano
Defence: 68 - 62 == Jonathan is much better, 62 is fine for Mariano
Stamina: 86 - 83 == same as Jonathan, so 86
Top Speed: 84 - 81 == Mariano has an amazing TS, i suggest 87, 1 point more than Léo Moura
Acceleration: 88 - 82 == close to Jonathan, same as Léo Moura, i suggest 87
Agility: 84 - 77 == better than Jonathan, imo 85 is ok
Dribble Speed: 84 - 81 == imo better than Jonathan, i suggest 85
Aggression: 85 - 82 == imo higher than Jonathan, could be 86

and some other suggestions:
Balance: 76 -> could go 1 point up
Response: 75 -> a little better than 75, i'd go with 78
Dribble Accuracy: 78 -> could 1 point up
Short Pass Accuracy: 73 -> could go 1 point up
Long Pass Speed: 76 -> i'd go with 79~80
Shot Power: 76 -> 80 fits him better imo
Mentality: 77 -> good mentality, i suggest 81
Condition/Fitness: 5 -> played almost every match this year, should be 7

so summarizing, it would be:
update his AGE, add WB to positions
Attack: 75
Balance: 77
Stamina: 86
Top Speed: 87
Acceleration: 87
Response: 78
Agility: 85
Dribble Accuracy: 79
Dribble Speed: 85
Short Pass Accuracy: 74
Long Pass Speed: 79~80
Shot Power: 80
Aggression: 86
Mentality: 81
Condition/Fitness: 7

[Anders]

Agree with renatomm suggest but IMO his TS coulde be 86, and add the Overlapping Run Card.

[CDDRodrigo]

Agree with the suggestions. He's currently the best RB in the Brasileirão.

[Odi1981]

Update, it is one of the best right wB of the League!!

[pedala robinho]

Have done a small update on first post, what you guys think?

[ominho]

Age: 24

[Epsi]

Yesterday I watched Sao Paulo - Fluminense, I was amazed of how fucking fast was this guy o.o imo he deserves orange numbers for TS and ACC

[pedala robinho]

I'm not sure, Epsi. He's quite similar to Kieran Gibbs on body structure and running style. IMO, Gibbs is a bit underrated, so, I wouldn't argue with TS 88 and ACC 89.

[squallzinn]

His DA is poor, for this reason he can just use his full speed in wide areas.

[Anders]

renatomm compared him with Jonathan and I compare with the new set (not so new) of Júnior César made by Tama:

First, change his main position to WB (He is being playing more frequent as WB than a SB.)

Stamina: 88 (1 point over J. César and Léo Moura.)
TS: 90 (1 point over J. César, is even low comparing that Mariano is 10cm taller, and for God sake the speed is not more overpower with pes 2011.)
ACC: 88~89 (I’m not sure with he deserve 88 or 89, I would like to hear some opinions about that.)
DA: 79~78 (Point and run player, IMO the same DA of J. César 78, but maybe somebody think that is low so I put 79 as well.)
DS: 88 (He has a high TS so IMO don't need to go to a high DS.)
LPA: 78 (2 points under Squallzzin sugg of LPA of Léo Moura.)
AGG: 87 (1 points under Squallzzin sugg of AGG of Léo Moura, as Mariano play as WB he don't need to be in pair with Léo Moura.)
Tech: 80 (He left the ball escape frequent but he catches her due his ACC.)

CARDS: P04 - Darting Run and S13 - Long Throw.

[rafzin]

Good suggestion anders, i like that.
And IMO his sense of defence is not good fail a lot to put yourself on good position to defend your team and even are "hole" on the field. IMO Defence could be 59 or even lower.

[squallzinn]

I disagree reduce defence of any SB in brazil due Daniel Alves has 65 and he is the same shit in defence like any other SB here.

[Pirata Almanega]

+Long Throw.