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Mário Fernandes

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Re: Mário FERNANDES

Postby dsc748 » 2010 Apr 27, 00:47

tsunaru wrote:i think 77 is a lower value for him . not so lower , but 79 , 80 is good , because he not do so many faults in a game

It is not a good reason, but I agree. He definatly positions himself well, even though he makes some unnecessary fouls. And now apparently he will be a CB not a SB anymore, his value was "low" because he was a SB.
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Re: Mário FERNANDES

Postby Winston » 2010 May 04, 19:42

He and Rodrigo were the quarterbacks selected for the team state championship (an award of FGF). In addition, he was one of the top three players in this league, along with Marcelo Costa and Borges.

I saw him stealing balls in a very clean way. We should increase DEF to 79, on pair with Rafael Tolói.

I think that Mentality also needs an improvement, because even when he was a right back, when he was on the attack and the team lost the ball, he ran all the field at full speed to help the other defenders, which cost him finish the game exhausted. He does not give up easily.
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Re: Mário FERNANDES

Postby tamaguchi_japa » 2010 May 05, 02:55

ok, updated DEF: 79.

what u'd like to suggest for mentality/tenacity?
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Re: Mário FERNANDES

Postby tsunaru » 2010 May 05, 14:59

I think 80 or 79
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Re: Mário FERNANDES

Postby Winston » 2010 May 14, 03:44

tamaguchi_japa wrote:ok, updated DEF: 79.

what u'd like to suggest for mentality/tenacity?


79 is OK.
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Re: Mário FERNANDES

Postby Fiddy » 2010 May 14, 15:36

sorry for the off-topic guys, but is he that good technically ? why the high AGG ?
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Re: Mário FERNANDES

Postby tamaguchi_japa » 2010 May 14, 16:04

his tech isnt good, he has only 73.

about AGG, is because last year he was playing as RB, and he go to attack so much, same as Danilo Silva (ex-Inter).
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Re: Mário FERNANDES

Postby Fiddy » 2010 May 14, 16:10

by tehnocally i ment AGI/DA/DS ;) well if he goes to attack that much, maybe Overlapping Run ?
and if he is that good technically and kinda fast, isn't Tech a bit low ?
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Re: Mário FERNANDES

Postby tamaguchi_japa » 2010 May 14, 19:50

i dont think, i've put DS: 82 cause he is dammy fast with the ball for a CB or RB; about AGI: 79 i've put it cause he is a quite agile from his size (189).

about TECH, he cant have the ball close to his foot, only average for a CB, not better than Miranda for example.
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Re: Mário FERNANDES

Postby Winston » 2010 May 15, 03:55

tamaguchi_japa wrote:i dont think, i've put DS: 82 cause he is dammy fast with the ball for a CB or RB; about AGI: 79 i've put it cause he is a quite agile from his size (189).

about TECH, he cant have the ball close to his foot, only average for a CB, not better than Miranda for example.


I disagree about his technique. He shows good technique in both positions, but of course as a side back this is more visible (currently, only on special occasions he plays as a side back, like the last game against Santos). Watch the video against Flamengo on the first page: he keeps the ball very close to the foot running to the attack, dribbling between two players, etc.

73 is a regular value for center backs (Rodrigo has 73, Rafael Marques has 72). IMO he is more technical than Réver (74).

I have tested in game values like 74, 75 and 76. And 76 (playing as a side back) is very close to reality in his case. I do not think an exaggeration. The position does not dictate quality. He has the touch of the ball worse than the center forward William "Batoré" (76)?


As Maguss said in December:

.Maguss. wrote:Also, all the technical stats, except maybe DA, are all conservative values. He showed that he deserves to be in the same level of Leo and Caceres in those areas, but again he need to show that more consistently to deserve better values.


He already proved it to me.
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Re: Mário FERNANDES

Postby tsunaru » 2010 May 15, 15:08

:D I agree with Winston .
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Re: Mário FERNANDES

Postby carriero » 2010 Jul 27, 17:54

he is very good in tackling deserve the special hability of man marking...
in this videos have various tackling of him..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyPLKcZM6hA&

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN_PICGAIic&
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Re: MÁRIO FERNANDES

Postby guibarneche » 2011 Jul 03, 02:56

He's more SB than CB nowadays... shouldn't his ATT, DA and AGG receive a little upgrade?
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Re: MÁRIO FERNANDES

Postby Anders » 2011 Jul 03, 23:45

Well with we change his main position he would need change in ATT, DEF and AGG as he would be rated as SB, but DA is rated at same way your ball control is the same you playing as CB or SB, the only difference is that you can show him more frequent as SB than CB.
Do you have values in mind in case of change his main position?
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Re: MÁRIO FERNANDES

Postby guibarneche » 2011 Jul 04, 02:51

Actually, i've got nothing in mind right now :D

But i just think his AGI and AGG are a little better than that, even if his main position isn't changed.
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Re: MÁRIO FERNANDES

Postby Anders » 2011 Jul 05, 03:02

In AGI I agree he can turn very fast for a player with his weight but AGG more? :shock: I have Lucio(Inter M.) with AGG 80 and Lucio is 10 times more aggressive than M. Fernades, I think that his AGG is high even for a SB, look I'm playing with F. Santos (ex. Grêmio) with 81. I don't remember know the value that give him in my OP but probably was a value between 73~75.
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Re: MÁRIO FERNANDES

Postby Odi1981 » 2011 Sep 05, 01:36

Gabriel is your reservation now! Only praise for him. I think it could be fixed as SB...IMO suggest change:

Attack: 66>>>>>>>>>>>69/70

Stamina: 82>>>>>>>>>>>85

Jump: 78>>>>>>>>>>80

Teamwork: 77>>>>>>>>>>80
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Re: MÁRIO FERNANDES

Postby rafzin » 2011 Sep 05, 02:22

I like your suggestions only have my doubts about TW, but i fully agree with other suggestions
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Re: MÁRIO FERNANDES

Postby guibarneche » 2011 Sep 07, 21:21

Odi1981 wrote:Gabriel is your reservation now! Only praise for him. I think it could be fixed as SB...IMO suggest change:

Attack: 66>>>>>>>>>>>69/70

Stamina: 82>>>>>>>>>>>85

Jump: 78>>>>>>>>>>80

Teamwork: 77>>>>>>>>>>80



I disagree about Jump. Mário is really crap when it comes to aerial balls, he barely gets off the ground :lol:


I was thinking about raising some stats as DA, AGI and TECH, since he's definitely being more SB than CB, as Odi said. But it would put these stats way above a CB's average, so i'm not sure... i would apreciate some opinions about this.
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Re: MÁRIO FERNANDES

Postby Anders » 2011 Sep 23, 04:24

I'm making a new set for him, based as SB being his registred position, I still have a lot of doubts but this is how he is know in my OP:
Spoiler: show
Attack: 72
Defence: 76
Balance: 82
Stamina: 85
Top Speed: 82
Acceleration: 83
Response: 82
Agility: 83
Dribble Accuracy: 78
Dribble Speed: 82
Short Pass Accuracy: 74
Short Pass Speed: 77
Long Pass Accuracy: 73
Long Pass Speed: 75
Shot Accuracy: 65
Shot Power: 79
Shot Technique: 66
Free Kick Accuracy: 63
Curling: 73
Header: 78
Jump: 76
Technique: 79
Aggression: 82
Tenacity: 85
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 79

Condition/Form: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 3

PLAYER INDEX CARDS:
S09 – Covering

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
★Side
★Covering

Motion Style:
Dribble Style: 2
Free Kick Style: 1
Penalty Kick Style: 1

Attack/Defence Awareness: DEF

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