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Manuel Neuer

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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby Hayame » 2014 Jul 14, 09:53

I think for Neuer we need something like a revolution of outfield player skills for keepers. For me he could get greens in LPA and maybe even yellow in LPS. Also his SPA and SPS are better mainly SPS has to be some points higher. Also I see his BC higher. Same for TS and STA. If I can remember well he walked and run against Algeria more than 6 km. This is insane for a GK.

Another point is his unbelievible aura. So I would raise his TW and of course his MENT. I didn´t notice one second in the whole world cup were he looked nervous or wasn´t save.

He is the best keeper I know. I can´t say anything about keepers before the 90´s because I never saw full matches of them.
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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby bitz » 2014 Jul 14, 10:24

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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby Hayame » 2014 Jul 14, 10:38

Great idea I think. I think Neuer could be just from his skills in Passing, BC, STA and TS minimum an avarage 2.Buli CMF. Surely I can´t say anything about ATT, DEF, RES and so on as CMF.
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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby Fides » 2014 Jul 14, 11:36

Great goalie but he takes so much risks with those storm-outs. IMO he could have been (red-)carded for his dangerous charge on Higuain. If you almost have to commit a felony (knee to the face) to concede a throw in you're simply too late and should have been carded.


Saying that his ball skills are similar to a 2nd Buli CMF are basically saying that his ball skills are as good as Howedes or Mertesacker, which I highly doubt.
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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby Hayame » 2014 Jul 14, 16:00

In this terms I see him over Mertesacker but in Passing Höwedes surely is above.

Why shouln´t have a GK better BC than outfield players. For me it hasn´t to do anything with the position.
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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby Fides » 2014 Jul 14, 18:17

Because its almost impossible to compare. Neuer is rarely ever is marked or put under close pressure, nobody argues when he puts the ball over the sideline when put under pressure, etc etc. I think its hilarious to think that Neuer would be a better field player (at least in terms of ball control and technique) then some of the best players around :D
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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby Hayame » 2014 Jul 14, 20:12

What do you mean with best player around? Yes of course Mertesacker is one of the best player around but surely not in terms like BC. As we said every average 2.Buli CMF is better in BC than Mertesacker. In our datatbase he is rated with 70 in BC. The average of our 2. Buli CMF´s is 73-76. So everyone of them is better in BC than Mertesacker. So in this term Mertesacker really isn´t one of the best player around in BC. As I said i think it doesn´t have to do with the position where the player is playing. And to me his BC looks quiet good. It doesn´t matter how you play the ball to him, he always handle it well.

Same for his Passing. Nearly all of his Drop Kicks reach their target. Also if he get the ball played back. His long passing get were he want them. So why just 72 in LPA? Surely he mostly ins´t under preasure when he plays them. But defenders also often aren´t under preasure. On the other side the preasure after a corner and then doing a fast drop kick is even higher.

This low ratings make no sense to me.
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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby Major general Woof » 2014 Jul 14, 23:55

Almost 9 minutes of everything but goalkeeping from him, and it's still awesome:

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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby donkenke » 2014 Jul 15, 00:57

297 passes attempted, 82% of accuary at the WC, isnt he one of the best GK at passing in the game?. Maybe already been discused, but if not, green passes at speed and accuary could be an option.
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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby thor34 » 2014 Jul 23, 15:43

donkenke wrote:297 passes attempted, 82% of accuary at the WC, isnt he one of the best GK at passing in the game?. Maybe already been discused, but if not, green passes at speed and accuary could be an option.


What happened with the update that was going to give him? only update Def/Ment, but there his LPA/LPS??? for ex.
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is not doubt incredible, almost nuna misses a pass, the area is a crazy, crazy out several times, showing an impressive Head many times http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5n0-rgBjVw , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VoHQHIIPqg look here, your att + agg to cut out several times and never commit a foul, added to the update that was given, would add 50 att (+5 claudio bravo) head 65, and lpa / lps 78/80
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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby mr.Boss » 2014 Jul 23, 16:09

thor34 wrote:
donkenke wrote:297 passes attempted, 82% of accuary at the WC, isnt he one of the best GK at passing in the game?. Maybe already been discused, but if not, green passes at speed and accuary could be an option.


What happened with the update that was going to give him? only update Def/Ment, but there his LPA/LPS??? for ex.
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is not doubt incredible, almost nuna misses a pass, the area is a crazy, crazy out several times, showing an impressive Head many times http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5n0-rgBjVw , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VoHQHIIPqg look here, your att + agg to cut out several times and never commit a foul, added to the update that was given, would add 50 att (+5 claudio bravo) head 65, and lpa / lps 78/80

Great suggestions , totally agree , i also suggest 70 STA or so , sure he runs more than any keeper ;)
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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby Agus topo » 2014 Jul 30, 22:33

He should has another position , LIBERO , he shows his greats atributes on the match between Alemania and Argelia.
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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby Pablo » 2014 Jul 31, 16:48

Agus topo wrote:He should has another position , LIBERO , he shows his greats atributes on the match between Alemania and Argelia.

No, please no, you can replicate Neuer's tendency to come out of his zone with 3 in Attack Awareness, there was already someone saying as a joke that Neuer should be given the sweeper position, but he's the best in the world at goalkeeping and he won't play anywhere else but as a GK.
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Re: Manuel Neuer

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Re: Manuel Neuer

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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby dakar95 » 2014 Nov 08, 23:01

Why don't have green in LPS and LPA?
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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby Jean_PS » 2014 Dec 01, 00:38

I believe his agility could rise to 78, he get it together pretty well after defender. And, despite not being so confident of this, maybe agression could go to yellow. If Higuita is 95, Neuer could go for yellow values without much problem.
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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby s-cobar » 2014 Dec 01, 10:14

would raise his response by one, but not his agility, I´m pretty fine with the 75, cause of his overall GK game and maybe a higher Acc. he´s able to save the most balls without a higher EP
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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby Major general Woof » 2014 Dec 01, 12:16

Someone else would get slapped for doing this.
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Re: Manuel Neuer

Postby carvinch » 2014 Dec 02, 05:43

well the thing is he has made quite a handful of mistakes this season already, very lucky that they have gone unpunished.

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