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Stefan Kießling

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Re: Stefan KIESSLING

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Dec 02, 16:34

I still think the Shot Accuracy value is slightly high.
He's never been exactly a clinical striker. I don't see his ability to place his shots to be better than Rudnevs' or Luuk De Jong's (both SA 80).
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Re: Stefan KIESSLING

Postby Hayame » 2012 Dec 02, 20:05

Agree with MaxPower in SA.

About Jump. For me Jump is a single value which describes the vertical Jump Power of the player. You right that high Jump + good Header and a big Height seams a bit overrated but for me there is a problem. The Jump power of a player can´t be related with the size of a player. Most athletics which doing High Jump are really big. And that kind of player is Kießling. Surely he is quite big but he also has a enormous Jump Power which is minimum in high 80´s for me. As example Adebayor or Jones are also about 190 cm and have Jump around 90. So he don´t need such a high Jump value because he´s quite bit isn´t a argument for me.
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Re: Stefan Kießling

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Dec 17, 23:43

Kießling really exploded in 2012, making a big step forward in his career. He already was a hard worker, team orientated as one could be and a decent scorer but this year he has become so fucking important to his team. He made 24 Bundesliga goals over the whole year 2012, 14 times scoring the 1-0 lead, 7 times assisting to the 1-0 lead! With 656 tackles in 17 matches he tackled the most of all Bundesliga players, for a striker that's huge, his defensive contributions is absolutely outstanding. Another interesting statistical fact is that Kießling plays 1.8 successful key passes per game which is absolutely oustanding for a centre forward, on a level with the likes of Berbatov and van Persie.
I am working on some suggestions for Stefan, gonna post them in a few days.
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Re: Stefan Kießling

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Dec 21, 13:48

Summary of my changes: Form from 6 to 7, maybe it's a bit too early but on the other hand I can't remember two bad games in a row from him for more than a year so I would say he deserves the raise. DEF 48 -> 52 I see him in 50's there because I think Kießling really shows quality when helping out in the defense which he does a fucking lot, also added Lunging Tackle because of this. He often chases back and steals the ball like this. Short and long passing stats got up because he just is a fine passer in the enemy's half, statistics prove me right there I guess. And about crossing, when he delivers a cross it isn't that shitty like current value suggest.

For BC I personally use him on 80 since I only play PES2013 and the BC value seemingly affects a player's shooting like ST did in earlier games. Just an amalgamation of his PSD BC and ST values.

RES +2, I liked that we reduced his SA from 83 to 80 some time ago because Kießling is mostly a tap-in type of striker, in the box he knows where to be at the right time and that's why he needs lower SA and higher RES imo. He also intercepts quite a few balls in the offense.

Lastly I think MEN and TW need to be higher to better mirror Kießling's style of playing, he's like the personification of a never giving up attitude, I still see Olic higher league-wise but not guys like Hanke or Cacau. Also in TW he needs to be among the top of the league, together with Lewandowski (who I see higher than 82 imo).

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Name: Stefan Kießling
Shirt Name: KIESSLING
Shirt Number: #11
Team: Bayer 04 Leverkusen
League: 1.Bundesliga
Nationality: German _ger
Height: 191 cm
Weight: 78 kg
Age: 28 (25/01/1984)
Stronger Foot: Right
Registered Position: CF
Other Positions: SS

TECHNIQUE
Attack: 85
Defence: 52
Header Accuracy: 84
Dribble Accuracy: 78
Short Pass Accuracy: 76
Short Pass Speed: 74
Long Pass Accuracy: 74
Long Pass Speed: 71
Shot Accuracy: 80
Place Kicking: 66
Swerve: 68
Ball Control: 78 [80]
Goal Keeping Skills: 50
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 5

SPEED
Response: 87
Explosive Power: 77
Dribble Speed: 79
Top Speed: 83

PHYSICAL
Body Balance: 85
Stamina: 81
Kicking Power: 84
Jump: 90
Injury Tolerance: B

RESISTANCE
Attack Awareness: 3
Defence Awareness: 2
Form: 7
Tenacity: 86
Teamwork: 84

PLAYER INDEX CARDS

P13 - Dummy Runner
P16 - Fox in the Box
P18 - Track Back

S16 - Jumping Volley
S18 - Heel Flick
S24 - Lunging Tackle
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Re: Stefan Kießling

Postby Hayame » 2012 Dec 21, 15:07

Good suugestions. I would go a bit higher in STA, too.
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Re: Stefan Kießling

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Dec 27, 14:45

updated, with minor tweaks, didn't used Track Back card and raised DEF aw instead. Also reduced TS and EP, he isn't this fast, not even over long distances.
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Re: Stefan Kießling

Postby FernandoA13 » 2012 Dec 28, 16:20

Isnt his TECH better then this? For me it could be easily 82. Or is he inconsistent? Because the times i watched him play his TECH seemed better for sure.
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Re: Stefan Kießling

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Dec 28, 16:30

I just raised it to 80, was 78 before. Hard to say if it could be better, I mean he is able to control the ball coming from anywhere with whatever velocity but he always looks somewhat clumsy when doing so, I don't know.
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Re: Stefan Kießling

Postby FernandoA13 » 2012 Dec 28, 17:22

Malakayi wrote:I just raised it to 80, was 78 before. Hard to say if it could be better, I mean he is able to control the ball coming from anywhere with whatever velocity but he always looks somewhat clumsy when doing so, I don't know.

I have him on 82 myself, but im sure when you guys see fit will raise it eventually. 80 doesnt do him justice :)
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Re: Stefan Kießling

Postby KillaKlo » 2013 Feb 08, 02:04

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Re: Stefan Kießling

Postby MrEskola » 2013 Apr 27, 14:11

*Penalties is a must.
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Re: Stefan Kießling

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Re: Stefan Kießling

Postby BigStu » 2013 Oct 19, 11:19

header must go up
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Re: Stefan Kießling

Postby fitzcarraldo » 2013 Oct 21, 10:09

Agree he ripped the net, what a powerful head shot.

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