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Vedad Ibišević

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 10, 21:15

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Re: Vedad Ibišević

Postby Oriello » 2008 Dec 11, 05:08

Magical how he has improved in Attack by two points from the old forum :P.
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Re: Vedad Ibišević

Postby spinaL » 2008 Dec 12, 12:48

response 88
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Re: Vedad Ibišević

Postby Mariner » 2008 Dec 12, 13:18

Can you give any reasons for this?
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Re: Vedad Ibišević

Postby spinaL » 2008 Dec 12, 13:20

I'm watchinh ever game of Hoffenheim. This guy is a mix of huntelaar and inzaghi, SUPER response!
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Re: Vedad Ibišević

Postby jorgebolano » 2008 Dec 12, 14:54

Totally against it.
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Re: Vedad Ibišević

Postby Mariner » 2008 Dec 12, 17:52

So here we go. These are my stats for the guy who managed to score phenomenal 18 goals in 16 Bundesliga matches for Hoffenheim this season.

Vedad IBISEVIC

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Nationality: Bosnian
Age: 23
Height: 1,88 m
Weight: 80 kg
XF/XS: RF/BS
WFA: 5
WFF: 5
Consi: 7
Condi: 7
Inj Tol: B
Pos: CF*

Att: 84
Def: 34
Bal: 82
Stm: 84
Spd: 82
Acc: 82
Rsp: 83
Agl: 78
DA: 80
DS: 82
SPA: 73
SPS: 74
LPA: 72
LPS: 73
SA: 82
SP: 82
ST: 82
FK: 66
Swv: 74
Head: 79
Jmp: 80
Tch: 83
Agg: 81
Mnt: 76
GK: 50
TW: 76

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[X] Scoring


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Attack: His biggest strength. Always at the right plays and with positioning to score when the ball reaches him.

Balance: Rather weak for a guy of his height and weight. He's more like a toothpick and so his Balance is rather low.

Shooting: He's a good shooter of the ball but not as good technicially as the ones like Mario Gomez or Pizarro, who are rated at 86.

Heading: Good heading ability, but still not as good to get a yellow value yet, but very close to it, what 79 shows.

Mentality: Ibisevic is a lazy striker, rarely going back to defence or attacking opposing defenders when controlling the ball.
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Re: Vedad Ibišević

Postby CrO_WoNdEr » 2008 Dec 12, 18:30

I agree with jump 80 and how about header 80??
the rest seems very similar to mine..so no need to update...
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Re: Vedad Ibišević

Postby Mariner » 2008 Dec 12, 18:32

Mariner wrote:Heading: Good heading ability, but still not as good to get a yellow value yet, but very close to it, what 79 shows.


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Re: Vedad Ibišević

Postby CrO_WoNdEr » 2008 Dec 12, 18:38

ohh :D ok then 79 header 80 jump ....agree???
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Re: Vedad Ibišević

Postby Mariner » 2008 Dec 12, 18:39

That's what I gave him so I agree of course ;)
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Re: Vedad Ibišević

Postby Oriello » 2008 Dec 13, 15:16

"Conditioning is fine at 6 for the moment, he has not proved to be able to handle the long term rigours of a full season yet, he was used in-frequently last season, and at Achaen I am not sure if he started every match. 7 in Conditioning is for players who manage some 40 games in a season, maybe 35+ if they do not sustain any injuries and are playing every match. Vedad is not even playing Europe this term, so he has an advantage over many other players participating in multiple competitions." -- Me from the old forum.

Top Speed, Dribble Accuracy, Agility, Short Pass Accuracy, Short Pass Speed, Free kick Accuracy, Header, Jump; all look okay with the changes.

Aggresion I think actually can go up even more than the single point you have given, maybe 83-84? As I stated on the old forum he is the main outlet in attack, and he often tries to break the defensive line with the midfield or Demba or Obasi looking for him to be making the killer run.

Team Work on the other hand I think is fine, as he does not have all too good link up in general. He may have a few flashes in a game, but other than those he really is just a poacher, and to me when he does attempt to create for Demba and Obasi like they do for him, he usually ends losing possesion...but this maybe a symptom of him wanting to pass (i.e higher Team Work) but being garbage at it (i.e. low SPA/SPS).. okay never mind then agree with the change..thinking while I write love it. :P

Also you have taken away the *Dribbling star, which I disagree with, as he often tries to dribble his way through but is just not good at it consistently and once again loses possesion.

Consistency is another stat that I would like to wait till the end of the season with, as what happens if we give him 7 now, and after the winter break he scores two goals for the remainder of the season? Simply Hoffenheim have not reached the grind of a season yet, when every team is tested thoroughly as other teams have played them once and know what to expect and form tactics to combat theri previous deployment.

Basically he is a sort of taller lower quality Inzaghi playing in a system where he is supported by two techinically capable forwards (both lacking his finishing), but he for some reason still tries to imitate both and reproduce some 'magic' on the field, but unfortunetaly is not as good as either Obasi or Demba and tends to foil his teams attacks with these lone crusades for glory ;). Then again if he played soley as a target man in a classical front three with wingers, then I think Hoffenheim would not have acheived the same level of 'sucsess'(have not actually accomplished anything yet except making headlines) this season.
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Re: Vedad Ibišević

Postby jmg721 » 2008 Dec 17, 15:00

I'm commenting on Mariner's stats assuming they get moved the the 1st post. They look good.

I agree with Oreillo about his aggression. He is not a line hugger, but tends to stay forward. 83 seems good. I think that his passing/TW is very difficult to rate. He will have good quality on occassion, but then he will have crap passes too. And other times, he will say screw passing, and take people on 1v1.

I say bring back the *Dribbling, and possibly boost his DA a point of two.
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Re: Vedad IBISEVIC

Postby HitMan » 2008 Dec 26, 22:03

SA and ST increase anyone???

SA 84-85

ST 83-84

is he really 6 points behind Klose in SA and 8 behind toni, scoring almost double what toni has so far :D
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Re: Vedad IBISEVIC

Postby Mariner » 2008 Dec 26, 22:31

Scoring 18 goals does not mean his ST is awesome. Most goals he scored were rather easy.
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Re: Vedad IBISEVIC

Postby HitMan » 2008 Dec 28, 01:24

anyone else got thoughts on this? :idea: :?: :!: :?:
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Re: Vedad IBISEVIC

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 28, 01:26

HitMan wrote:SA and ST increase anyone???

SA 84-85

ST 83-84

is he really 6 points behind Klose in SA and 8 behind toni, scoring almost double what toni has so far :D


the stats of Toni and Klose are because they scored lots of goals in big leagues for several seasons... Ibisevic is on a run now... lets not exaggerate
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Re: Vedad IBISEVIC

Postby HitMan » 2008 Dec 28, 01:29

yes he is on a run, and thats why i proposed an increase, later on if he flops then we reduce them...its keeping the database up to date... :mrgreen:
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Re: Vedad IBISEVIC

Postby ramyv10 » 2008 Dec 28, 02:24

as someone once said...class is permanent, form is temporary. ;) That's what the database is based on....not chasing who has scored a goal this week and update is shooting stats.
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Re: Vedad IBISEVIC

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 28, 02:48

HitMan wrote:yes he is on a run, and thats why i proposed an increase, later on if he flops then we reduce them...its keeping the database up to date... :mrgreen:



no... it could be alot of yellow/red arrow days now... ;)
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