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Leonel Vangioni

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Jun 01, 04:56

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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby thor34 » 2013 Feb 25, 23:21

He's playing well in recent games River. I agree with decreasing TS but I think it would have to rise ATT / DEF / STA / DA / DS / TECH / AGG. Only in my view so that it can be said ATT: 73/74 DEF: 60/61/62 STA: 86 DA: 81 DS:83 TECH: 80 AGG: 81
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby pelimetal » 2013 Feb 26, 03:48

Well I think his DEF , AGG and TS must be changed and ATT/DEF awareness: 3/2 or 2/2.
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby Vickingo » 2013 Mar 03, 02:29

@thor34 Come one man, don't make me delete all of your posts. Put some effort in them, please.
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby Argonath » 2013 Mar 11, 00:01

he's excellent at crosses, with great accuracy, speed, the ball always falls on a teammate or at least in dangerous positions.. he's no way worse than C. Sanchez here.. even knowing that probably sanchez deserves worse numbers than the current ones..
i'm impressed how he can launch the cross even with a man in front of him, or beeing under the pressure of his marker.. he uses a lot of effect in those crosses without space..
i don't know if Swerve affects long pases, but if it does, i propose a bit upgrade.. Sanches has little higher LPA/LPS/SWE stats and i can't see any reason to be like this..
i dont even see him much worse than rojas at crosses
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby pelimetal » 2013 Apr 01, 04:33

He needs some changes in LPA, LPS and DEF.
ATT/DEF Awareness : 3/2 and LMF as main position.
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby dragunov » 2013 May 26, 23:59

Great match vs Rafaela, very fast and agile player, scores a great goal from middle distance and run all the match... i think his STA can be upgrade to 86/87, he practically run "todas" and i see him like a good defender in some ocations so i think he deserve 60's DEF.
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby pelimetal » 2013 May 27, 23:29

dragunov wrote:Great match vs Rafaela, very fast and agile player, scores a great goal from middle distance and run all the match... i think his STA can be upgrade to 86/87, he practically run "todas" and i see him like a good defender in some ocations so i think he deserve 60's DEF.


Totally agree.
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby thor34 » 2013 Jul 19, 14:05

He needs an update played well in this last semester, and also under 4 goals all with his great virtue shot from outside the area, less against SMSJ who was in the area.
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby Paablito » 2013 Jul 19, 15:35

His development in the field was good, he contributes in def and att and did well, he's and average SB but imo isn't better than Casco/Peruzzi/Papa/Morel, in terms of "play as a team when we defend", Vangioni is definitly much better when played as SMF to run in less space and can leverage his potential.

-I didn't saw him so explosive like his actual value, has a very good ACC but his movements doesn't look so "electrics" and definitely his TS never was 87 or even close in this semester.
-Yes, he scored 4 goals in the last semester, but nobody says how many times he kicked and the amount of times when the ball went wide. At lest, I remember 4 or 5 shots for match but only 1 or 2 go to the goal (I dont' know how fucking say "arco/portería" in english, let me know please :lol:)
-Talking about his LPS/LPA, he can do tasty long passes sometimes, but look Heinze two or three times, then look this dude and you can see what is a tasty long pass.

I have some ideas in mind for this guy, he played all the matches in a good level, but not for a totally upgrade in all the set with yellow numbers or raise it because yes. Also I would wait to see what value to choose in form, imo 6 looks exagerated for SB
To update it properly I will wait two or three games to see what position and how it does play in that position
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby Capote » 2013 Jul 29, 02:56

I think attack can be in 75, he is very inteligent in attack, he take good desicions.
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby Vickingo » 2013 Jul 29, 11:03

Yeah, he does need a total new set...Paablito's thoughts are pretty right imo.
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby Capote » 2013 Jul 30, 17:06

What do you think about this set?


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Name: Leonel Vangioni
Shirt name: L. VANGIONI
Shirt number: 21
Nationality: ArgentinianImage
Height: 181 cm
Weight: 80 kg
Age: 26 (05/05/87)
Foot: L
Side: L
Position: SMF, SB

TECHNIQUE
Attack: 75
Defence: 60
Header Accuracy: 68
Dribble Accuracy: 82
Short Pass Accuracy: 77
Short Pass Speed: 75
Long Pass Accuracy: 83
Long Pass Speed: 85
Shot Accuracy: 74
Place Kicking: 70
Swerve: 82
Ball Control: 81
Goal Keeping Skills: 50
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 4
SPEED
Response: 75
Explosive Power: 83
Dribble Speed: 83
Top Speed: 87
PHYSICAL
Body Balance: 77
Stamina: 85
Kicking Power: 87
Jump: 76
Injury Tolerance: B
RESISTANCE
Attack Awareness: 3
Defence Awareness: 2
Form: 6
Tenacity: 75
Teamwork: 80

OLD STATS:
Acceleration: 85
Shot Technique: 75
Aggression: 82
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby Paablito » 2013 Aug 05, 01:53

I said before, imo his TS never was near at 87, also his KP/LPS/LPA doesn't seem so important to deserve that value...
Not convince me when he play as LSB, like with Sanchez Miño in Boca, in that position doesn't exploits his potential. Despite that, he was well in defense and went very well to attack in all the match.
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby nachogr28 » 2013 Aug 05, 07:06

Paablito wrote:I said before, imo his TS never was near at 87, also his KP/LPS/LPA doesn't seem so important to deserve that value...
Not convince me when he play as LSB, like with Sanchez Miño in Boca, in that position doesn't exploits his potential. Despite that, he was well in defense and went very well to attack in all the match.


Yes, I think I said it before just like u did. His TS IMO should be something like 85 and EP 81
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby thor34 » 2013 Sep 08, 23:32

Leonel Good game, never give up, fight every ball, their set seems a little old hope for improvement, not fill the set of numbers but yellow as Paablito said an increase would be better
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby Paablito » 2013 Sep 17, 02:54

What about this? I follow this tournament him, this is more or less what we are talking

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Name: Leonel Vangioni
Shirt name: L. VANGIONI
Shirt number: 21
Nationality: Argentinian
Height: 181 cm
Weight: 80 kg
Age: 26 (05/05/87)
Foot: L
Side: L
Position: SB★, SMF

TECHNIQUE
Attack: 74
Defence: 58
Header Accuracy: 68
Dribble Accuracy: 80
Short Pass Accuracy: 77
Short Pass Speed: 74
Long Pass Accuracy: 79
Long Pass Speed: 83
Shot Accuracy: 73
Place Kicking: 70
Swerve: 82
Ball Control: 78
Goal Keeping Skills: 50
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 3
SPEED
Response: 76
Explosive Power: 81
Dribble Speed: 82
Top Speed: 84
PHYSICAL
Body Balance: 77
Stamina: 85
Kicking Power: 83
Jump: 76
Injury Tolerance: B
RESISTANCE
Attack Awareness: 3
Defence Awareness: 2
Form: 5
Tenacity: 70
Teamwork: 78

OLD STATS:
Acceleration: 85
Shot Technique: 75
Aggression: 82
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby Vickingo » 2013 Sep 17, 11:53

Like it, sure about that da/tech? never impressed me that much to have those numbers lately but you followed more than me.
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby Paablito » 2013 Sep 17, 13:16

Vickingo wrote:Like it, sure about that da/tech? never impressed me that much to have those numbers lately but you followed more than me.

Oh my mistake, I copied the post of thor and I forgot change that. Thanks Victor, corrected the other post.
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby pelimetal » 2013 Sep 19, 21:26

I think his weight is wrong, look at the official page: http://www.cariverplate.com.ar/futbol-profesional-plantel/
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Re: Leonel Vangioni

Postby Paablito » 2013 Oct 08, 03:24

pelimetal wrote:I think his weight is wrong, look at the official page: http://www.cariverplate.com.ar/futbol-profesional-plantel/

Im doubts about his weight/height, many sources have differents values..

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