Rogelio Funes Mori


Moderator: Mod's

Forum rules
User avatar
PES Stats Database
PSD Backbone
Posts: 19347
Joined: 2008 Dec 09, 12:06
Been thanked: 471 times

Rogelio Funes Mori

Postby PES Stats Database » 2010 Mar 15, 00:10

Image

Last edited by tuco55 on 2014 Oct 23, 08:15, edited 2 times in total.
petarpan
New Contributor
Posts: 38
Joined: 2018 Jun 13, 12:24
Has thanked: 9 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Re: Rogelio Funes Mori

Postby petarpan » 2018 Jul 23, 19:31

JeffVR98 wrote:IMHO this guy has been improving alot his shoot accuracy, I kept in my mind that bad memory of his days in CARP, but comparing and analyzing his evolution, the Mexican League has helped too much to his improvement as finisher if you compare him.

He can use this numbers he doesn't belong anymore to the 60's zone regarding SA and now his far away from Nahuelpan level, so he can be updated.

SA 68 -> 73
SP 84 -> 83
ST 75 -> 77


I do agree with this suggestion. In my opinion, putting his SA at 68 is absurd (is he really that wasteful?!) - he would not be a striker at all with such low shooting ability. Furthermore, I believe his ST and RES also need a raise as it is where most of his goals come from, i.e. amazing sense for goal from fast reactions and good positioning.
thor34
Veteran Stat Maker
Posts: 1430
Joined: 2012 Jul 02, 14:08
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 50 times

Re: Rogelio Funes Mori

Postby thor34 » 2019 Jan 27, 14:21

Señores yo soy del Gallinero
User avatar
JeffVR98
Regular Poster
Posts: 360
Joined: 2017 May 14, 05:41
Has thanked: 166 times
Been thanked: 85 times

Re: Rogelio Funes Mori

Postby JeffVR98 » 2019 Jan 30, 01:01

It would be funny compare his performances 5 years ago to how he's playing now, but currently he has been showing superb performances over the last months and this set don't make justice to what he's.

Probably att it's just a little bit low for what he's showing currently, we can see clearly how he's doing amazing little touches to get around defenders, his instincts and how he could do such small simple things to beat a defender are just great to see, tbh his att has been looking like 83 even for a league like the mexican he's clearly a tier above many players regarding his "Attack-wise".
BB probably can be around 83 too, his physic has change, he isn't more that player that could be beated so easily, he's just amazing in the box holding the ball against defenders, looking for a goal chance.
DA/DS should be changed, DA 79 and DS 74 would do the job, he isn't more capable to put so much speed into the ball over distance and free, meanwhile his da has become a great tool for him to beat defenders, in the other hand his shooting skillset is something worth to review, he's just blantantly showing every week an amazing repertory of finishing, if his teammates give him a decent ball to his foot, he would probably send that ball into the corners to score, even in awkward positions, i'm pretty sure that he can rated around something SA 80 SP 84 ST 82.
petarpan
New Contributor
Posts: 38
Joined: 2018 Jun 13, 12:24
Has thanked: 9 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Re: Rogelio Funes Mori

Postby petarpan » 2019 Apr 29, 21:21

JeffVR98 wrote:It would be funny compare his performances 5 years ago to how he's playing now, but currently he has been showing superb performances over the last months and this set don't make justice to what he's.

Probably att it's just a little bit low for what he's showing currently, we can see clearly how he's doing amazing little touches to get around defenders, his instincts and how he could do such small simple things to beat a defender are just great to see, tbh his att has been looking like 83 even for a league like the mexican he's clearly a tier above many players regarding his "Attack-wise".
BB probably can be around 83 too, his physic has change, he isn't more that player that could be beated so easily, he's just amazing in the box holding the ball against defenders, looking for a goal chance.
DA/DS should be changed, DA 79 and DS 74 would do the job, he isn't more capable to put so much speed into the ball over distance and free, meanwhile his da has become a great tool for him to beat defenders, in the other hand his shooting skillset is something worth to review, he's just blantantly showing every week an amazing repertory of finishing, if his teammates give him a decent ball to his foot, he would probably send that ball into the corners to score, even in awkward positions, i'm pretty sure that he can rated around something SA 80 SP 84 ST 82.


I can definitely agree with this. The current set is outdated. He has been pretty consistent in Mexico and he has scored 11 goals in 15 games this season (Clausura only).

Attack, Response, and shooting skills are definitely worth revisiting. He has shown some predatory instinct to score goals from a variety of positions, while also being able to create goalscoring opportunities for himself. In my opinion, his Shot Technique is his greatest quality as he has been scoring consistently from awkward positions.

An obvious player to compare him would be Gignac. If we analyse their performances in the last two seasons, we can see that he is around there on the same level as Andre-Pierre: Funes Mori scored 39 goals in all competitions in the last 2 seasons, while Gignac scored 41, both of them playing around 75 games.

My suggestions are as follows:

Attack: 83
Balance: 84
Response: 82
Shot Accuracy: 80
Shot Power: 84
Shot Technique: 86
Header: 83
Aggression: 88
Paablito
PSD Guru
Posts: 5411
Joined: 2012 Jul 01, 22:36
Has thanked: 173 times
Been thanked: 457 times

Re: Rogelio Funes Mori

Postby Paablito » 2019 Apr 30, 14:23

Att 83? In a league where the pression is really low and the striker gets a LOT of free space to move and make his own movements. Even you can see the dmf as guido rodriguez taking the ball in his own box and reaching the opposite box with no mark or with a little amount of pression.
Yeah he improved his shoting and can connect pretty nice shots but about pure danger and intelligence in attack? I think he is pretty well rated.
https://youtu.be/GHVWLLU6mPE?t=49 he recieve the ball and has a lot of time to make a proper control and hit the ball.
https://youtu.be/SCrpJCGMWKg?t=28 agin he has three or four seconds to look the gk, look the ball and then connect a great shoot.
https://youtu.be/SCrpJCGMWKg?t=32 awful coordination with the cb, he is in front of the gk and did a meh shot the gk hasnt a good reaction
https://youtu.be/SCrpJCGMWKg?t=48 and https://youtu.be/SCrpJCGMWKg?t=61 these are a great great shots but you can see the space he has? the cb are really away from him and when tries to make an interceptions Funes Mori makes a simple move to let behind him.
https://youtu.be/SCrpJCGMWKg?t=94 look how dumbass is the cb (!!) instead of attack the ball he waits and waits inside of the box no pressure then funes mori does a nice shoot to the stick (i think that is the word :lol:)
https://youtu.be/SCrpJCGMWKg?t=145 :| :| same dumbass defenders as here in AFA

306 matches and 122 goals in his career 0.39 average goals per match. BEfore México had an average of 0.22 scoring ratio, then in mexico he raised his scoring ratio. In 2015/16 0.56 (44 mathces 25 goals), in 2016/17 0.54 (41 matches 22 goals), in 2017/18 0.48 (40 matches 19 goals), in 2018/19 0.57 (35 matches 20 goals). So yeah he improved his movements/shoting ability and his condition was great great the last months but asi said before he is not way at 83 in att.
We should be fair with the DB, Modric/Di Maria/Villa/Ribery/Paolo Guerrero/Eriksen have 84 in attack to see how delicated is the att value and what consideration he should have to said a value.

Agree with his st/sa are much better definitely he won class and accuracy in front of the goal, about balance dont know properly how good is using his body but is decently good from what i could see and his agility seems slighly worse.
btw not only deserves raise as JeffVR98 said he deserves some changes in his speed values pretty spot on what he proposed to ds didnt see so consistent to deserve a raise on his dribblings and also agree in 80/84/82 on his shoting abilities. Also his first pass is pretty rought mostly of the times even in some actions that 69 looks much better that actually is irl :lol:

about new gen stats his ball wininning must be around 53ish, def prowess 52 and att prowess 80ish
petarpan
New Contributor
Posts: 38
Joined: 2018 Jun 13, 12:24
Has thanked: 9 times
Been thanked: 16 times

Re: Rogelio Funes Mori

Postby petarpan » 2019 Apr 30, 20:39

Paablito wrote:Att 83? In a league where the pression is really low and the striker gets a LOT of free space to move and make his own movements. Even you can see the dmf as guido rodriguez taking the ball in his own box and reaching the opposite box with no mark or with a little amount of pression.
Yeah he improved his shoting and can connect pretty nice shots but about pure danger and intelligence in attack? I think he is pretty well rated.
https://youtu.be/GHVWLLU6mPE?t=49 he recieve the ball and has a lot of time to make a proper control and hit the ball.
https://youtu.be/SCrpJCGMWKg?t=28 agin he has three or four seconds to look the gk, look the ball and then connect a great shoot.
https://youtu.be/SCrpJCGMWKg?t=32 awful coordination with the cb, he is in front of the gk and did a meh shot the gk hasnt a good reaction
https://youtu.be/SCrpJCGMWKg?t=48 and https://youtu.be/SCrpJCGMWKg?t=61 these are a great great shots but you can see the space he has? the cb are really away from him and when tries to make an interceptions Funes Mori makes a simple move to let behind him.
https://youtu.be/SCrpJCGMWKg?t=94 look how dumbass is the cb (!!) instead of attack the ball he waits and waits inside of the box no pressure then funes mori does a nice shoot to the stick (i think that is the word :lol:)
https://youtu.be/SCrpJCGMWKg?t=145 :| :| same dumbass defenders as here in AFA

306 matches and 122 goals in his career 0.39 average goals per match. BEfore México had an average of 0.22 scoring ratio, then in mexico he raised his scoring ratio. In 2015/16 0.56 (44 mathces 25 goals), in 2016/17 0.54 (41 matches 22 goals), in 2017/18 0.48 (40 matches 19 goals), in 2018/19 0.57 (35 matches 20 goals). So yeah he improved his movements/shoting ability and his condition was great great the last months but asi said before he is not way at 83 in att.
We should be fair with the DB, Modric/Di Maria/Villa/Ribery/Paolo Guerrero/Eriksen have 84 in attack to see how delicated is the att value and what consideration he should have to said a value.

Agree with his st/sa are much better definitely he won class and accuracy in front of the goal, about balance dont know properly how good is using his body but is decently good from what i could see and his agility seems slighly worse.
btw not only deserves raise as JeffVR98 said he deserves some changes in his speed values pretty spot on what he proposed to ds didnt see so consistent to deserve a raise on his dribblings and also agree in 80/84/82 on his shoting abilities. Also his first pass is pretty rought mostly of the times even in some actions that 69 looks much better that actually is irl :lol:

about new gen stats his ball wininning must be around 53ish, def prowess 52 and att prowess 80ish


Thank you Paablito, although your point stands, I believe that it says more about those defenders not deserving good defence stats, rather than Funes Mori not deserving 83 in attack.
If we look into other players who have attack 83 and higher in the Mexican league, you find following players: Matias Alustiza (ATT: 84, 4 league goals this season), Oribe Peralta (ATT: 84, 5 goals this season), Dorlan Pabon (ATT: 83, 3 goals this season), Nicolas Castillo (ATT: 83, 4 goals this season), Gustavo Bou (ATT: 83, 7 goals this season). As noted above, Funes Mori scored 11 in 15 matches this season and the only one that is close to him is Bou who has 7 goals in 13 games.

I understand that scored goals is not the only factor when evaluating the attack stats, but it is the most important one. The defenders in MXL may be bad, but they are bad for all attackers, and not only for Rogelio. Still the listed players have much higher attack than him, although they have not been nearly as prolific in front of goal. Also, regardless of bad defending, Funes Mori manages to get himself regularly into goalscoring opportunities, which is something that should not be overlooked.

Again, his current attack value is definitely too low and if 83 is high then he definitely deserves at least a yellow value, if compared to other players in the league.

Furthermore, I think that his ST should be higher than what you suggested above, he attempts overhead kicks, he scores backheel goals. My original idea was 86, which I admit, may be too high, but 83 or 84 is definitely deserved.

Return to “CF Monterrey”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests