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Rafael da Silva

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 17:58

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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby pedala robinho » 2011 Jan 18, 15:43

I understand your opinion, but, with all due respect, I don't like the logic :? ... This isn't a question of having his body formed or not, if he covers a huge amount of grass, and does not get tired, he should have a higher value on STA. If he becomes better when he gets older, so, he will deserve a better value. This had nothing to do with having the body formed or not IMO, I mean, I know a lot of guys that could be marathonist since they are teens and they haven't necessarily improved. If he has physical problems to last a match, is should be reflected on his Form, not on Stamina. If he becomes prone to errors at the end of the games, his problem is Mentality. Even with a 87 on Stamina, a so offensive side-back as him will be tired at the end of the games.

Anyways, I honestly like Paddy's set, I believe it's just a question of implementing the recently discussed values and it will be perfect IMO.
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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby Fixer » 2011 Jan 18, 16:16

I think 86-87 Is a good value. If there's something this boy has athleticism. I'm sorry tasmin but this time I do not agree with your reasoning :oops:
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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby tasmin » 2011 Jan 18, 16:19

well i understand your explanation. but that's not all of stamina ! stamina is not all about covering huge amount of grass and question of getting tired it is also the endurance of a player in a full match !and considering that rafael should not get over 83-84 which is a top class value for a youngster like him !in a full match he is not the same in first 50 minutes and last 40 minutes! he gets tired , get less forward and made stupid fowls in the last period !that's because he tires up !that's because of his age ! he gives his maximum for a 20 years old and when his body will fully build up he will have higher stamina !also just consider his long runs with bale whose stamina is at 88.don't you think there should be at least 4-5 points difference !rafael covers good amount of grass in a long run but at the last of the run watch out his movements !he becomes more static and made mistakes ! either it is passing or shooting !that's the difference !i guess you got it !
pedala robinho wrote: if he covers a huge amount of grass, and does not get tired, he should have a higher value on STA.

actually that's also mentality !mentality is the commitment and drive of a player !at the last period he gets tired but still runs and tries to cover decent amounts of grass because of his mentality and agility !but actually he can't covered that grass and that's why he doesn't go forward as like in the early period and made stupid fowls !because he is tiring up !
pedala robinho wrote: I know a lot of guys that could be marathonist since they are teens and they haven't necessarily improved.

that's in case of physical problems of those guys ! but he is physically fit and without any accident he would get better and better as he already can run decent !
that's why i feel his stamina should go down and mentality could improve little ! also agility should go up !
The Game , you really doesn't need to be sorry for that ! i feel sorry for you as you don't try to realize my points :mrgreen: which is actually correct in any means !
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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby Kai_89 » 2011 Jan 19, 21:29

update him cuz I wnt to play him updated id PES :) Btw person who creatd this topic wasn't loging in for year...
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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby Fixer » 2011 Jan 19, 21:41

You can put whatever you think fair In your PES. We won't call police :P
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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby Paddy » 2011 Jan 19, 22:44

My stats are in first post and I'm the mod of the EPL, don't worry your sweet little heart.
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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby ThaReaper01 » 2011 Jan 19, 22:55

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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby Paddy » 2011 Jan 19, 23:04

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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby ThaReaper01 » 2011 Jan 19, 23:08

What is it with this season and those type of images?
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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby CDDRodrigo » 2011 Jan 19, 23:36

The photographers improved a lot, ThaReaper
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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby Fixer » 2011 Jan 20, 08:48

That image Is Ok. Maxi Is enjoying It, Is that bad?
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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby zizou_262 » 2011 Jan 25, 01:47

i think he don't deserve sliding card, being sent out two or three times and saving from sent out about 5 times because his late slidings.
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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby ThaReaper01 » 2011 Jan 25, 03:08

He's only been sent off twice in his career (I believe) and he wasn't red carded for a late sliding challenge.
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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby zizou_262 » 2011 Jan 25, 04:57

it was a late challenge in the match vs totenham, but yeah it's true, it have been two times, maybe is his lack of experience :)
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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby ThaReaper01 » 2011 Jan 25, 06:50

He won the ball and was wrongly booked. For both challenges, in fact.
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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby Paddy » 2011 Jan 25, 10:06

First challenge his feet were over the ball and he lunged, arguably a red card in the current climate, and in regards to the second challenge he clearly clipped him and to the ref it looked like a foul, but it was an accident, he could have stayed on the field but Rafael will learn from it.
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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby BigStu » 2011 Jan 25, 16:32

rightly or wrongly (the latter in most cases) the under the current rules that is a normally foul and a yellow

The first one was indicative of the current climate that referees have created, Essien was sent of vs Fulham for "lunging studs up" into a tackle, but the thing was his studs ended up in the pitch no where near the player and he got all of the ball and none of the player......
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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby BigStu » 2011 Mar 25, 18:37

updated with some of paddys values
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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby CR7 » 2011 May 19, 00:15

His picture is of Fabio, BTW.
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Re: RAFAEL da Silva

Postby BigStu » 2011 May 19, 17:30

I know, its a little joke (and I was being lazy)

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