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Joel Campbell

Postby PES Stats Database » 2011 Jul 10, 21:17

Full Name: Joel Nathaniel Campbell Samuels
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Re: Joel CAMPBELL

Postby KeyserSoze » 2012 Jun 24, 05:06

It would be better to compare him with other players for an update (preferently fron Ligue 1, since he played on loan at Lorient last season).
Besides, he didn't impressed that much at the French club. I just saw him twice last season and he didn't look much clinical in front of goal as you are suggesting
(that's why I'm not surprised he just scored 3 league goals for Lorient).
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Re: Joel CAMPBELL

Postby Adrien » 2012 Jul 16, 11:23

I updated some tweaks with new standards.
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Re: Joel CAMPBELL

Postby Fixer » 2012 Dec 18, 10:59

Specially based on the match against Celta, he could do with even less stamina, by minute 70 his runs werenowhere near near those TS and DS values and he was absolutely exhausted, but gotta give credit to the work he had to do. Has been looking more like a SMF than a SS, and Im not quite sure his ATT deserves green just yet, yesterday and against Depor too showed quite rushy behaviour and a really high need of matches to get experience, reminds me of Lass Bangoura at times even though I do believe Campbell's more talented. He did some weird stuff yesterday, noted one touch pass to nobody and a moment he could just outpace a player and decided to stop and turn around very pointlessly. Again, he seemed really tired by that moment anyway.
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Re: Joel Campbell

Postby Fixer » 2013 Mar 11, 21:01

He's crazy agile and can reach some very good TS. 87 Seems on spot, but his agility on first sight is around 92 +/-
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Re: Joel Campbell

Postby Korinov » 2013 Mar 11, 21:20

Yeah. I'd also like to add that his general passing is actually good. Konami gave him yellows for LPA/LPS but I'm actually more interested in his short passing values... he's a good passer really, the pass to Molina in the first goal vs. Rsoc was class, he can put a pretty decent pace on them too, and is usually consistant when distributing, he has grown to be important in Betis' passing flow in midfield. Both SPA and SPS should be on yellows. TW is also probably better than this, there's a huge difference between him and Juankar IMO, Juankar just stays close to the sideline and waits for the ball, Campbell moves much more in a supportive fashion.

If he has a weakness I'd say it's his ATT. He just rushes things too much too many times, it's a clear sign of inmaturity... but he has the talent to become a great player.
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Re: Joel Campbell

Postby Ahmedk » 2013 Jul 10, 09:20

his periode of loan to betis is end , there are some reports he will be loaned again but nothing is officiel
he is now whit NT in CONCACAF 2013
he should be moved to ARSENAL

about his jump i think it should be in 80's
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Re: Joel Campbell

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Re: Joel Campbell

Postby bitz » 2013 Aug 26, 06:38

His Ball Control is a bit lousy at times, and his body movements are not that fast to deserve an 85. His teamwork could go down a bit too, his wide role doesn't require anything more than mid-high 60's. Stamina could go up a knotch, a lot of running in every game, has a good work ethic.
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Re: Joel Campbell

Postby bitz » 2013 Sep 25, 14:54

I updated the set earlier today. Wrote a long post to go with the update but it was lost. I'm open to discussion if there are any doubts about the set.
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Re: Joel Campbell

Postby Fixer » 2013 Sep 25, 15:04

79 Explosive power only? He's always stuck me as a REALLY agile player everytime I saw him for Betis :? I rated him at mid-to rather high yellows myself.
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Re: Joel Campbell

Postby bitz » 2013 Sep 25, 19:36

He doesn't have that quickness in his body movements a yellow AGI player has and he doesn't use frequent changes of direction, a 79 still makes him able to pull off basic feats of agility.

A relatively recent performance of his:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8KfrjdPO7c

No sign of 85ish agility.
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Re: Joel Campbell

Postby bitz » 2013 Oct 07, 15:07

Small change, WFF 5 -> 4. Clearly prefers using his left foot.
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Re: Joel Campbell

Postby maximusprime » 2013 Oct 09, 22:26

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0FSyOJEdBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6-BUaP_q9Q
response, attack, dribble and shot accuracy are not accurate, his dribbling is really fun to watch and 75 is not fun, 75 is what an average center midfielder has, not a fast exciting wingman like campbell
hard to judge a player on a video of only one game
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Re: Joel Campbell

Postby ballack13 » 2013 Oct 11, 21:44

I don't agree with this Explosive power update. He is very agile. I'd have him mid yellow values as he initially had.

Also - 75 dribble seems very harsh. He's actually pretty skillful.

The rest of the update - I can live with. Although I do think perhaps we might be better off keeping his stats higher than this but with a low form considering his inconsistency.
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Re: Joel Campbell

Postby bitz » 2013 Oct 12, 09:17

I still have my objections but since people ask it I'm reverting to previous values for DA and EXP. We'll judge him again in the end of season, until then I'm locking the topic.
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Re: Joel Campbell

Postby čale » 2013 Oct 12, 12:40

this actually isn't a nice way of resolving an issue...locking a topic? why? because people disagree?
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Re: Joel Campbell

Postby bitz » 2013 Oct 12, 13:46

Because it seems nobody can safely judge the aforementioned abilities in his current condition, so no point of discussing based on 1 vid, or 2 vids or past season games.
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Re: Joel Campbell

Postby čale » 2013 Oct 12, 14:23

well how much have you seen of him to justify the update you did weeks ago? you're calling out people for basing things on a few vids and on the other hand you've done the same with the aforementioned update...
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Re: Joel Campbell

Postby bitz » 2013 Oct 12, 14:52

Every single game he played wearing the red-white which was about 10 at the time of update, isn't that enough to form an opinion? And the update aside from DA, TEC, EXP was standardizing values of oldish standards.
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Re: Joel Campbell

Postby ballack13 » 2013 Oct 16, 02:10

Blitz - you have a lot of people disagreeing on you here.

4 to your one...

I respect your opinion and all but surely you need to take into consideration the 4 people disagreeing with you (two of which are mods).

How about bringing his agility back up to old value and meeting somewhere in between on the other stats.

Keep his form around 4 or so to show his inconsistency and age.

Seems fair.

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