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Marek Hamšík

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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby Paddy » 2008 Dec 19, 15:12

he's been scoring for fun this season maybe he could get an update in SA and ST
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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby Ace » 2008 Dec 19, 21:15

IMO he need both WFA & WFF 7 (or maybe 8) because he's both footed, *reaction (because it will help him to be always in opposite box, Perrotta has it too for the same reason), shot technique maybe 80 (he can score in this way;) ) and better passing stats (I dunno if someone lowered them in old forum but in my OF they are better, dunno if i modified by myself, i can post if you want ;) )
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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby DeFrenZ » 2008 Dec 19, 21:18

agree with these ;)
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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby jmg721 » 2008 Dec 20, 00:18

Ace wrote:and better passing stats (I dunno if someone lowered them in old forum but in my OF they are better, dunno if i modified by myself, i can post if you want ;) )

Yeah, these are straight from the old forum. Please post your recommendations 8-)
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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby Ace » 2008 Dec 20, 02:04

I compared him to Perrotta, who plays similar, here are all my suggestions:

Dribble Accuracy: 83 (a good dribbler)
Dribble Speed: 82 (not slowly)
Short Pass Accuracy: 83 (his passing skills are good, a bit worse than De Rossi)
Short Pass Speed: 81 (same as SPA)
Long Pass Acc.: 79 (he need to improve, he play in center and don't cross often)
Long Pass Speed: 78 (same as LPA)
Shot Technique: 80 (he scored a bicikle-kick against Roma)
Header: 77 (he scored once against Juventus)
Jump: 75 (average, not that bad as first post)
Aggression: 85 (comparison with Perrotta)
Weak Foot Accuracy: 7 (he's boot footed)
Weak Foot frequency: 7 (use often the left foot, cause it's good)

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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby jmg721 » 2008 Dec 20, 09:47

@Ace - I really like your break down, and as you are seemingly more familiar with Hamsik, I am going to agree with your suggestions. They seem well thought out, and using other players as comparisons.

There is only one concern I have. Your explanation of his Long Passing:
Ace wrote:Long Pass Acc.: 79 (he need to improve, he play in center and don't cross often)
Long Pass Speed: 78 (same as LPA)

IMO, these are good LP stats. If he doesn't do many and needs to improve, I think these values are a bit generous. The best passer on Chievo (Bentivoglio) is currently sitting at 80/80. Agostini who I see as a very good crosser of the ball is sitting at 78/76. And he does it very often. True, both of these values are likely a bit underrated, but 79/78 is good IMO.
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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby nico90 » 2008 Dec 20, 12:54

Ace wrote:I compared him to Perrotta, who plays similar, here are all my suggestions:

Dribble Accuracy: 83 (a good dribbler)
Dribble Speed: 82 (not slowly)
Short Pass Accuracy: 83 (his passing skills are good, a bit worse than De Rossi)
Short Pass Speed: 81 (same as SPA)
Long Pass Acc.: 79 (he need to improve, he play in center and don't cross often)
Long Pass Speed: 78 (same as LPA)
Shot Technique: 80 (he scored a bicikle-kick against Roma)
Header: 77 (he scored once against Juventus)
Jump: 75 (average, not that bad as first post)
Aggression: 85 (comparison with Perrotta)
Weak Foot Accuracy: 7 (he's boot footed)
Weak Foot frequency: 7 (use often the left foot, cause it's good)

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I agree with all your suggestion but Dribble Speed i would say 80/81 and aggression 83 (he's a bit less aggressive than Perrotta)
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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby Ace » 2008 Dec 20, 20:55

jmg721 wrote:@Ace - I really like your break down, and as you are seemingly more familiar with Hamsik, I am going to agree with your suggestions. They seem well thought out, and using other players as comparisons.

There is only one concern I have. Your explanation of his Long Passing:
Ace wrote:Long Pass Acc.: 79 (he need to improve, he play in center and don't cross often)
Long Pass Speed: 78 (same as LPA)

IMO, these are good LP stats. If he doesn't do many and needs to improve, I think these values are a bit generous. The best passer on Chievo (Bentivoglio) is currently sitting at 80/80. Agostini who I see as a very good crosser of the ball is sitting at 78/76. And he does it very often. True, both of these values are likely a bit underrated, but 79/78 is good IMO.

thanks mate, i compared these two players cause they are both atypical-AMF (not the classics n°10). About LP stats, i wanted only to say that we can't give a yellow value because he don't cross often because he play in centre, and i said "he need to improve" because he isn't good as De Rossi (i compared them and De Rossi is surely better) ;)

nico90 wrote:I agree with all your suggestion but Dribble Speed i would say 80/81 and aggression 83 (he's a bit less aggressive than Perrotta)

yeah, he's a bit less aggressive than Perrotta, then Perrotta has 86 and i would give him 85. BTW about DS, there is a very low difference between my 83 and your 81, maybe an 82 is the right choice
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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby DeFrenZ » 2008 Dec 20, 21:35

I agree with these ;)
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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby jmg721 » 2008 Dec 20, 22:09

Updated!! 8-)

We can continue tweaking, but this was a necessary update.
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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby DeFrenZ » 2008 Dec 20, 22:11

he's the most interesting youth in serie A imo... even though i consider PATO, BALOTELLI and GIOVINCO really highly :)
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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby Ace » 2008 Dec 21, 02:44

psd123 wrote:Weak Foot Accuracy: 6

it could be 7 ;)
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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby Dino » 2008 Dec 22, 20:26

Ace wrote:
psd123 wrote:Weak Foot Accuracy: 6

it could be 7 ;)

Yeah i should be 7
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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby Ace » 2008 Dec 22, 20:44

Pazza Interista wrote:Yeah i should be 7

it's funny because i suggested 7 but Mod didn't update it :D
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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby PMC » 2009 Jan 07, 14:21

Marek Hamsik looks a bid like the younger evil brother of Roland Linz :o
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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby Alex_10 » 2009 Jan 12, 13:36

i propose an higher value in AGI, he's really much more agile than 80!
an 83 like simplicio or jovetic..
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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby Rfuna » 2009 Jan 15, 19:57

Alex_10 wrote:i propose an higher value in AGI, he's really much more agile than 80!
an 83 like simplicio or jovetic..

Agreed!
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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby Ace » 2009 Jan 15, 23:42

well, what numbers you suggest?
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Re: Marek HAMSIK

Postby BECKS23LA » 2009 Jan 18, 19:57

Agree too!
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