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Jarrod Bowen

Postby PES Stats Database » 2019 May 20, 22:25

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Re: Jarrod Bowen

Postby Oriello » 2019 May 21, 00:59

The Defence OklahomaState gave at 50, he is worthy of it, he is an abnormally good tackler for an attacking player (I would bump Ball Winning to 50 also), and does a fair shift as a wide man defensively.

WhoSocred records him;
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2017/18---42 games----3284 minutes---65/116 successful tackles/total attempted--33 fouls -- 2 yellows
2018/19---46 games----3951 minutes---66/103 successful tackles/total attempted--30 fouls -- 1 yellow

For the amount he works to get the ball he has a clean record and winning just over half his challenges.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqGUFnuwROo highlights of 2018/2019

https://youtu.be/WY8a0b93yEY?t=25 vs QPR (2 goals & assist)

https://youtu.be/dIGEq51xHYY?t=45 first half of 2018 season highlights, might have some of 2017
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Re: Jarrod Bowen

Postby anOKguy » 2019 May 21, 01:30

Oriello wrote:The Defence OklahomaState gave at 50, he is worthy of it, he is an abnormally good tackler for an attacking player (I would bump Ball Winning to 50 also), and does a fair shift as a wide man defensively.

WhoSocred records him;
SEASON
2017/18---42 games----3284 minutes---65/116 successful tackles/total attempted--33 fouls -- 2 yellows
2018/19---46 games----3951 minutes---66/103 successful tackles/total attempted--30 fouls -- 1 yellow

For the amount he works to get the ball he has a clean record and winning just over half his challenges.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqGUFnuwROo highlights of 2018/2019

https://youtu.be/WY8a0b93yEY?t=25 vs QPR (2 goals & assist)

https://youtu.be/dIGEq51xHYY?t=45 first half of 2018 season highlights, might have some of 2017



Yes, a few things to change on this. I went back and was viewing more of your suggestions and I agree completely on the bb being Tevez like. He gets low and is hard to knock off balance. I see that being more impressive than his agility. The agility the reason I went lower is that I was watching his hips and they’re not really mobile. He doesn’t turn super tight but is able to move side to side nicely. He takes touches changing sides but not anything what I saw was really agile the way a player with higher agility would be making more than simple cuts and explosive accelerations. It’s a weird build and I agree we should raise bb to at minimum 83. He runs through tackles and takes knocks and stays on course. He’s not shifting around players the way an agile player would, at least in my opinion, but more making straight line runs and a cut. I’m open to higher agility though for sure. Finally, defense is a must since that is a standout characteristic of his. 50 is a minimum and he might push for 55 if he keeps it up.

Edit: shot technique is low yellows too
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Re: Jarrod Bowen

Postby anOKguy » 2019 May 21, 20:57

Here is what I had posted on his players to be created thread.


Breakout youngster of the campaign. He has a hell of a shot on him and has turned in 22 goals as of this moment in spite of the fact that he lines up at the right sided mid in their formation. Very aggressive predator instinct that latches onto loose chances and converts with accuracy. He isn't much stand out aside from that. With his smart runs, I would like to see him play underneath the striker as a more ss or advanced role to just give him more freedom in that part of the pitch. Surely will be a good purchase for a lower-mid table EPL side in need of goals (Burnley?). Sort of in the Dele Ali mold. Fun player to track and I look forward to watching more of him.

Attack: 77
Defence: 50*
Balance: 80
Stamina: 81
Top Speed: 78
Acceleration: 81
Response: 78
Agility: 76
Dribble Accuracy: 77
Dribble Speed: 75
Short Pass Accuracy: 73
Short Pass Speed: 72
Long Pass Accuracy: 72
Long Pass Speed: 70
Shot Accuracy: 76
Shot Power: 77
Shot Technique: 80
Free Kick Accuracy: 70
Curling: 73
Header: 75
Jump: 74
Technique: 77
Aggression: 83
Mentality: 66
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 67
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Re: Jarrod Bowen

Postby anOKguy » 2019 Jun 06, 18:00

Here are some more videos of him on a list I will be amending and adding to over time:
https://youtu.be/XFPjeeggecM?t=597 for the agility that Oriello mentioned about him when taking this hard dribble through two defenders
https://youtu.be/OgoowbQQlbg?t=206 nice flick on
https://youtu.be/OgoowbQQlbg?t=540 really well hit goal
https://youtu.be/Czs9445WTVc?t=245 poacher after making a good interception on a poor clearance he slots it home quickly
https://youtu.be/UZ58KLo9vDo?t=41 again, his finishing when cutting in with his left is very dangerous
https://youtu.be/UZ58KLo9vDo?t=436 interception ability Oriello has noted which he then picks up, has some nice agility on show, and eventually puts it away
https://youtu.be/KZfU6qBIut0?t=361 another interception he uses to spring a quick counter
https://youtu.be/KZfU6qBIut0?t=536 does a really good job checking back to make sure he gets onside and then a nice response to score
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Re: Jarrod Bowen

Postby Oriello » 2019 Jun 06, 22:55

I think Bowen was left underrated in his SA, he in two seasons had 20 missed /33 on target, 30 missed / 49 on target - a third of his shots are from outside the box and most of the rest on the outer edge of the penalty area, not many in the 6 yard box. He is a better shooter than the 76 SA /78 ST reflects for the variety he scored and his ability to find the mark.

The Defence / Defensive Prowess bump to low 50s is warranted too.
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Re: Jarrod Bowen

Postby anOKguy » 2019 Jun 06, 23:11

Oriello wrote:I think Bowen was left underrated in his SA, he in two seasons had 20 missed /33 on target, 30 missed / 49 on target - a third of his shots are from outside the box and most of the rest on the outer edge of the penalty area, not many in the 6 yard box. He is a better shooter than the 76 SA /78 ST reflects for the variety he scored and his ability to find the mark.

The Defence / Defensive Prowess bump to low 50s is warranted too.

Went back because of this again to go for watching all his shots and can agree with this completely. He’s a stud and has a great combination of all of the shooting avocets. He misses, but never by much. Can drive them home hard, with bend, and enough accuracy. Technique is unquestionably yellows. Accuracy I see as the lowest of the bunch, but that’s still high green material.

Defense, definitely. His response as well could be higher. He isn’t picking off easy passes like some do. Rather, he positions himself well to usher the opposition one way and then reads their eyes as they go to make the pass he wants them to make and can go steal it, even if it’s several meters away due to his anticipation alone.

What shooting numbers do you give him?
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Re: Jarrod Bowen

Postby Oriello » 2019 Jun 07, 02:42

I was only thinking some minor bumps to SA and ST, forget what you had for ST in your original draft, 81? That was fair.

SA does not yet need to be 80+, but hes been a really good placer of the ball, think with the SP which is fine that he would be more realistically represented with SA 78-79 SP 77 ST 80-81.

I did not go over his shooting like you have recently, in my memory the SP to me was maybe his weakest point, though he does shot from afar often, the shots themselves tend often be sizzlers along the ground or if they have an arc, its a low flighted one where it barely gets airborne and drops to the ground just shy of the goal and skips at the target (makes it awkward for keeper). To me Bowen does not have the raw ferocity that you see from some mid-80s shooters where the keeper has no chance even if he gets near it, Bowen seems more about placement from range his objective to squeeze it in before the keeper can stretch and cover the space. The ST/connection just always seem to be there, a natural shooter whatever the scenario.


Well we've made our case, hopefully he will prove the haters wrong next season, in EPL ;) ... hopefully he won't go SubWay Jarrod on us and be a big disappointment.
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Re: Jarrod Bowen

Postby anOKguy » 2019 Aug 29, 15:03

https://youtu.be/FF_NR7OSGag?t=383
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Ok, his attacking value will definitely jump as will his shooting when he gets a big club to pay the price for him. Great prospect that I see being able to fit in a lot of teams and contribute.

https://youtu.be/FF_NR7OSGag?t=452
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Re: Jarrod Bowen

Postby anOKguy » 2019 Sep 11, 21:05

https://youtu.be/UyMLBcEXiYg?t=55 Oriello, wherever you are lurking in the shadows I want to let you know I see this stuff from him a lot more - he is definitely getting more agile!
https://youtu.be/UyMLBcEXiYg?t=309 Another goal this time on the break after dispossessing Kasey Palmer
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Re: Jarrod Bowen

Postby Oriello » 2019 Sep 12, 00:58

I cant even remember my opinion on his agilty - too much in the ol mind dumpster fire. I just recall he sort of was a strong dribbler and would resist others well sort of ploughing his way with some turns here and there.

I see your mod now, so you can give him the shooting values we thought he was worthy of ;)
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Re: Jarrod Bowen

Postby anOKguy » 2019 Sep 12, 22:31

Oriello wrote:I cant even remember my opinion on his agilty - too much in the ol mind dumpster fire. I just recall he sort of was a strong dribbler and would resist others well sort of ploughing his way with some turns here and there.

I see your mod now, so you can give him the shooting values we thought he was worthy of ;)

Seems there is a certain fox in the hen house per say. You had liked his agility a bit higher than it was at. Also, shooting I really think it will be irrefutable this year after he keeps up this pace, which dates back two seasons actually. He is looking in fine form already and improving upon where he was in the season before.
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Re: Jarrod Bowen

Postby Oriello » 2019 Sep 13, 01:06

fox in hen house? is the hen house anywhere near the dumpster fire in my brain>? I honestly can't recall my thoughts on him, I tried to search discord for me mentioning Bowen and see what I wrote, I cant find it...too much info not enough recall, need to go to Mars as a woman and find the stomach talker.

Shooting it was mainly ST that I think could be maybe 81 or under keeping rest same is fine, his ability to catch the ball has been on show for 2 seasons.
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Re: Jarrod Bowen

Postby anOKguy » 2019 Oct 01, 16:36

So he does not get tired, constantly makes runs all games energetically, and has a great mentality that when leads to him scoring many late goals. He never gives up, supports the team well despite being a limited passer, and just presses on. Absolute gem that needs to get to the Premier League. I have no doubts he will succeed and score goals at that level.
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Re: Jarrod Bowen

Postby anOKguy » 2019 Oct 21, 15:41

https://youtu.be/QA1RjqjC-D4?t=192 time and again he proves how absolutely deadly he is
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Re: Jarrod Bowen

Postby anOKguy » 2019 Dec 01, 18:43

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fWcMoBPi84 There are all 50 goals he has scored for Hull City so far, a total he will surely get closer to 60+ by the end of the season. View him now before he ends up in the EPL. With him, it is an inevitability.
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Re: Jarrod Bowen

Postby 7Jonathan28 » 2020 Sep 15, 19:20

He caught my eye since came from Hull and joined West Ham, but what makes him interesting is his crossing ability. His crosses were quite good, he delivered some great ball last season. His assists for Soucek against Watford and Chelsea are some examples. I think he needs a raise in LPA + LPS and curling.

And maybe some changes in speed and dribbling stats too, he's quite underrated player. He had decent start in Premier League since came to West Ham in January. I hope this season will be his breakthrough season.
I think some updates are needed. So, my suggestions :
Top speed = 80
Acceleration = 84
Agility = 81
Dribble accuracy = 82
Dribble speed = 80
Long pass accuracy = 78
Long pass speed = 77
Curling = 79
Tech = 80
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Re: Jarrod Bowen

Postby 7Jonathan28 » 2020 Oct 04, 13:03

He scored in two consecutive matches, which those matches were against the top ten clubs, twice against Wolves last week and once against Leicester today. He needs an update, I have suggest the stats too.
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