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Dele Alli

Postby PES Stats Database » 2015 Aug 08, 15:34

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Rather difficult to rate, clearly a good attacking midfielder, may well have a future a box to box CM, but seems to be thought of by manners more a holding man/deep lying playmaker, also suspect I've gone overboard with shooting stats but 16 goals last season in league one from CM/DM

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Re: Dele Alli

Postby VReznoV » 2016 Apr 21, 15:54

Cool, he transformed from A white zone player to an England prodigy
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby Relja » 2017 Jan 05, 00:31

Obvious one, but his headers and jump are ready for a big boost. also i can see his attack slightly higher
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby Djemba Djemba » 2017 Jan 05, 11:07

I see everything higher, especially in comparement with Moussa Dembele, who is world class here on psd, but Ali is in RL better player than he is... he is faster and more agily than at this set here... maybe is that just my opinion, but i will give him both 85, drible also can go higher
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby Djemba Djemba » 2017 Jan 05, 11:10

This video is a great example, agility 76 is disgrace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd5DpyJyG14
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby Ocrin » 2017 Mar 28, 14:29

Thoughts about adding the SS position?
He's an AMF on the gameplan but his positioning and contribution are very close to what we would expect from a SS. Being able to play him there in PES replicates his real life behaviour better than the AMF position IMO.
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby Longwell » 2017 Apr 17, 13:12

Ive watched 90% of his Tottenham matches. Often operates as a SS these days ,yes.

BB, HEA and AGG still too low for him.

BB 81
HEA 84
AGG 86

... would be more representative.
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby Yazid » 2017 Jun 01, 01:44

My quick thoughts on Dele Alli. Am looking at more footage as I go along but immediate thoughts from 10 or so extended highlights videos:

SA, SP balance. He doesn't need such a high SP. He is capable of good SP, but if you look at most of the chances he finds himself in, he doesn't have to rely on his power because his outstanding movement and positioning gets him into dangerous positions near the goal. I don't think he needs higher than 78.
On the flip side, SA is simply too low. If the finding the corners of the goal is still the requisite to high SA, its probably Alli's strongest suit. He works himself into some marvellous positions and his finishing is very good. 84-85 territory is my conservative first thoughts.
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby BigStu » 2017 Jun 01, 09:54

I disagree, he's too much of threat from outside the box, have lowered it to 81, but won't go any further, he can really hit the ball as his goal vs watford showed, have raised SA ad bump ST.
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby Rex » 2017 Sep 02, 01:39

Him and Asensio are the brightest goalscoring midfielders, but i like Ali's style more. His ability to get into the box unmarked is brilliant, just amazing.
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby Rex » 2017 Nov 02, 02:14

His ability to get in behind, position himself in the box and score is just incredible. His runs are just brilliantly timed, and being surrounded by unselfish players in Eriksen and Kane, a big +.

https://youtu.be/rLFgpGuKSoI

His connection with both of them is impressive. Also i would like to praise Harry Kane once again specially. Didn't score, and he seemed perfectly fine, but once again assisting, positioning deep to clear the space for Alli's runs, just amazing team player.
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby dakar95 » 2018 Jan 04, 05:55

I was reading his stats at Tottenham, and I'm shocked. 121 games and 41 goals, just 21 years old, being MIDFIELDER. Yeah, that isn't a discovery 'cause all of you know him. I'm surprised because at this moment, those stats sounds so normal, when years ago any player playing in that position took many years to reach to that quantity of goals. The same with Mbappe or another of this present with stratospherics numbers, and that sounds so normal. They're so excellents players at this era, and idk if players like Kaká, Gerrard, Lampard were or had so good statistics.
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby Rex » 2018 Jan 14, 00:48

I have a feeling that 83 DA is a bit over the top for him. He's capable of beating men, he's a nutmeg specialist, but in terms of pure close control i don't think he's this good, he's like 80 max, he's like a bambi on the ice very often, and he's losing control quite regularly. All round it's not that important for his style to have such DA, he has a brillianr movement, he's great in supporting play too

. https://youtu.be/sqinXr9Lf3Y 1:29 is a solid example
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby KeyserSoze » 2018 Jan 14, 02:03

He actually performs some skills on the ball which don't require much close control, such as Round Around and Turning Skills, and he does them quite effectively. Still, I agree his DA is a sort of a secondary aspect of his football style. He can deal with DA 80.
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby BigStu » 2018 Jan 14, 11:30

I’ve massively overrated him in a few areas should be given the nerf he deserves,
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby vinnie » 2018 Apr 04, 23:24

BigStu wrote:I’ve massively overrated him in a few areas should be given the nerf he deserves,

i actually thought the old set was good in some areas. yes technical skills like DA were a bit too generous, but dele is really a very smart player. he uses his awareness and intelligence to be such an effective support striker/ attacking midfielder, just with the way he can get in the box and see chances, and make passes that are effective just through the timing and speed of recognition he has. i think he's even higher than that 85 attack he used to have personally. it's his stand out trait, and it shouldn't be underrated considering how effective he's been for 2/3 seasons despite being a rather limited attacking midfielder otherwise.

stunning touch by dele for his goal against chelsea by the way.

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Re: Dele Alli

Postby donkenke » 2018 Jun 29, 00:50

vinnie wrote:
BigStu wrote:I’ve massively overrated him in a few areas should be given the nerf he deserves,

i actually thought the old set was good in some areas. yes technical skills like DA were a bit too generous, but dele is really a very smart player. he uses his awareness and intelligence to be such an effective support striker/ attacking midfielder, just with the way he can get in the box and see chances, and make passes that are effective just through the timing and speed of recognition he has. i think he's even higher than that 85 attack he used to have personally. it's his stand out trait, and it shouldn't be underrated considering how effective he's been for 2/3 seasons despite being a rather limited attacking midfielder otherwise.

stunning touch by dele for his goal against chelsea by the way.



I would say just the same. This set makes him so ordinary, so common. Such a player would cause little noise in the football world. Its extremely difficult to understand why in half Europe is interested in Ali with this set. Its not what i have seen the couple of times i have watched him play. I think he has an obvious talent, easy to notice. He is a very strong threat to any defense. Hes offensive intuition or awareness is something you can appreciate in his games, the capacity is there. The goals speak of that as well also, 44 goals is indeed incredible at his age. 9 goals and 10 assist 17/18 season.

Just wanted to say that is pretty enjoyable to read your posts vinnie. I personally dont have much time to watch football cause life itself is incredible enjoyable to the ones that can see that. Anyway, is always a joy to read from you, cause i see pretty clear your football understanding as i belive i have as well (as many others of course). And as much as i love football, i complement my knowledge with the way moderators rate players, and the comments being made by vinnie, some of jurgen and others. I appreciate the effort being made here. Maybe is a thing of mathematicians and engineer minds, analytical minds.

Anyway, this site is a reference (maybe the best available on inet) to try to imagine how good players really where, moving further than just believing what people say about them. Football history is of course in the heart of the whole "football movement" as Krishnamurti would probably say. To truly understand Football you need to at least smell, breath, the history of the game. This site is the evolution of the mythological histories that you heard when you are a child about football players of the past (lol).
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby BigStu » 2018 Jun 30, 11:06

great couple of posts, Ive made some changes, maybe I've gone overboard but point stands, also given lingard the same treatment
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby shakiralaw » 2018 Jul 09, 21:35

Hey guys, been meaning to post this a while ago (apologies if this has already been explained), but is Alli's Attack supposed to be higher than that of prime Lampard/Gerrard/Scholes? I mean his goals/assists tally for Spurs is impressive, but above those guys already? Or is it just lazy nostalgia on my part and he is ahead of them?
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby false 9 » 2019 Jan 13, 20:50

I feel as though he has a great engine for an am, something like high yellows I'd think. For an am he's definitely not averse to contributing defensively.
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Re: Dele Alli

Postby Ocrin » 2019 Jun 03, 03:41

Isn't he even more durable than this? He runs a lot off the ball, and doesn't seem tired often. He's probably bordering oranges for STA, maybe even a plain 90.
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