Heui wrote:PMC is right, he's actually a great finished when under pressure but sadly he doesn't show this quality in Stuttgart
monKevski wrote:You might be right, but you must see in the present, not in the past.
In this season (and the games in the season before) I didn't see him as a strong striker for his size. On a direct running duel with strong and fast defenders like Naldo, Lucio or Westermann he'll lost the duel, but against slow defenders he has his speed and will run them away.
In the NT and earlier for Shakhtar he seems to be strong, but nowadays in the Bundesliga he doesn't seem to be that, at least for me. There will be 80 quite good.
Any arguments for that high Shot Technique value? In my eyes, the gap between SA and ST is too big and he hasn't really shown great Shot Technique in the games for Stuttgart.
monKevski wrote:Lucio is a quite fast defender, for me one of the fastest in the Bundesliga.
But what you said shows that Marica is very fast but not really strong.
For me he didn't show his great shot technique, yet.
And you said, the few goals he scored resulted by a solo effort.
That doesn't such that high ST, only that he's fast and run the defenders away to stand alone in front of the goal keeper.
He do that often enough, but he awards his chances to score too often.
But I think a value of 82-83 would be accurate, otherwise the gap between the Shot Accuracy would be to big in my opinion.
I'd like to see, what do the others say like Heui.
coolactive wrote:Ok, he is talented I believe you, maybe Grafite was a bad comparation.
But, lets compare Marica with Helmes from Leverkusen.
Helmes is 182/81, plays CF and WF, a German national player.
This season : 20 goals in BuLi + 3 in Pokal + 1 in nt , 5 assists
His ST stands at 84, Marica ST is 85.
Is it really a point higher then Helmes, no matter what we might think of Marica abilities ?
coolactive wrote:Ok, I watched videos, I understand what are you trying to tell me. If you think he is worthy those values then it is Ok. Still, I think he is overrated in some sections we discussed earlier and that he needs a slight downgrade in condition (which is already done) and considering his scoring abilities - his grades does not represent his performance this year, it represents more yor impression of him...
monKevski wrote:I also would decrease his Balance to 80. He's not so strong and lost to much duels at the moment.
And his ST should be lower, 85 is really to high. I think 82 would suits him.
TigerCourage wrote:I'd say Top Speed 88 - 89, he runs like a nutcase without the ball.
a few ideas regarding him
BB: 81-82 = he's fairly combative and physical in his duels... he'll still not win many balls with his stats but will stand more of a chance which is realistic
Responce can probably go down a notch
DA: 81 = he can dribble, but he's not really overly technical in that area
Technique: 80-81 = his 1st touch kinda decreased lately... he needs a few attempts to control the ball
mentality: a huge ?-mark imo
Teamwork: this one can only be discussed if we settle the other aspects of his game
s-cobar wrote:What about his ST - he never show at Stuttgart why he is on 85 in this point.
Maybe PMC or Coolactive can say, if this represents him well at the NT.
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