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Martín PALERMO

Postby Messias18 » 2008 Dec 12, 00:59

CREDITS: MESSIAS18 WITH UPDATES OF MANOLOXCR17 AND VIICKINGO_73



Martin Palermo made in his carrer 291 goals in 570 matches
"El Loco" is the maximum scorer in the history of Boca Juniors with 227 goals in 315 matches

Long header goal
Gol de mitad de campo vs Independiente
Gol de chilena vs Banfield


Last edited by Messias18 on 2009 Jul 09, 15:38, edited 5 times in total.
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Re: Martin PALERMO

Postby fds123 » 2008 Dec 13, 02:38

Messias18 wrote:this needs some changes:

Attack: 86
Defence: 35
Balance: 89
Stamina: 78
Top Speed: 70
Acceleration: 71
Response: 86
Agility: 71
Dribble Accuracy: 73
Dribble Speed: 72
Short Pass Accuracy: 73
Short Pass Speed: 71
Long Pass Accuracy: 74
Long Pass Speed: 71
Shot Accuracy: 81
Shot Power: 85
Shot Technique: 86
Free Kick Accuracy: 68
Curling: 71
Header: 96
Jump: 82
Technique: 75
Aggression: 87
Mentality: 80
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 81
Injury Tolerance: B
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot frequency: 4
Consistency: 6
Condition/Fitness: 6

Positioning*
Scoring*
Post Player*


what do you think abaout this new set of modfications?

Att: 88-89
Def: 60
BB: 90
Stamina: 74
TS: 67
Ag: 70
DA: 74 (nowdays he has improved A LOT his ball control an passes. even he makes well 1st touch passes XD)
DS: 74 (not too low, coz together low TS and low DS will make him scary slow with ball at feet)
SPA: 76
SPS: 75
LPA: 74
LPS: 74
SA: 79 (or even a little less, suits FOR HIM but not for other worldclass top scorers)
TW: 80 (to link up better with assistants players)
WFA: 6
Injury: C
1st touch* (he made tons of goals that way)

the other stats from messias18 are very good ones
mix them please and update (after 3 agrees obviously)
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 13, 02:40

wait nvm... lol... I'm confused... haha
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby fds123 » 2008 Dec 13, 02:44

dont worry, i can edit the post when we have three agrees :)
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 13, 02:45

fds123 wrote:dont worry, i can edit the post when we have three agrees :)



I hope we can scrape them together... the argie fans are a bid rare here these days... we need more of them definately
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby fds123 » 2008 Dec 13, 02:51

yes, i think it would be very usefull if more "futbol" (is the way we call this awesome sport:) ) fans are around here.
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 13, 03:00

fds123 wrote:yes, i think it would be very usefull if more "futbol" (is the way we call this awesome sport:) ) fans are around here.



I think theres many around but we need to promote this site ;)
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby lucas2491 » 2008 Dec 13, 03:38

I agree with:

Defence: 60
Team Work: 80 ("to link up better with assistants players", if this stat affects this way striker, I totally agree)
*1st touch

His passes should stay as in first post I think.
And talking about shot accuracy, I think its not that low! He may miss incredible situations but that should go on a lower consistency, not on shot accuracy I think.

Oh, and also I think he can have better Attack, because like this he doesn't get the amount of chances he has in real life.
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby fds123 » 2008 Dec 13, 03:52

i think the same about attack, BUT... i had this situation before...
around here is easy to underrate southamerican players just because they are almost unknown and "they should be bad at XXX, that's why they are playing in a not major league"
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby lucas2491 » 2008 Dec 13, 04:23

Well...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IFFHS_The_ ... World_2007

I know this ranking are not very acurate, but here we can see the diference between Argentina/Brazil league and europe top leagues is not so much
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 13, 12:02

why would you suggest defence 60 for Palermo? Is he a Kuyt like player?
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby lucas2491 » 2008 Dec 13, 12:22

mmm... now I see that Kuyt has 59 I'll say a lower number than 60, maybe 49?

he's become quite hardworking, and he tries to help recovering the ball

So I also suggest to raise his mentality to 80, not just for defensive reasons, because the "want to win" factor, he always does goals in important situations
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 13, 12:29

lucas2491 wrote:mmm... now I see that Kuyt has 59 I'll say a lower number than 60, maybe 49?

he's become quite hardworking, and he tries to help recovering the ball

So I also suggest to raise his mentality to 80, not just for defensive reasons, because the "want to win" factor, he always does goals in important situations



is he alot more involved in recovering balls than the average striker?

and if hes very hard working you can even give him low 80s... 82-83
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby Fides » 2008 Dec 13, 12:36

lucas2491 wrote:Well...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IFFHS_The_ ... World_2007

I know this ranking are not very acurate, but here we can see the diference between Argentina/Brazil league and europe top leagues is not so much
Sorry but that list is crappy. Several South American signings are always clear about the fact that the standard of play in the Netherlands is higher then in their former league. You really cant tell me the Colombian and Chiliean league is better then the Russian or the Dutch :P
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby PMC » 2008 Dec 13, 12:45

the brazilian and argentinian leagues are great... then theres a few clubs from other countries who are good and then it goes down from what I know

I watched a couple south american games and I could see that Europe is tactically and physically superior... the technical level of SA is very great though and the players have alot more liberties which make the games very interesting in its own way
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby fds123 » 2008 Dec 13, 17:00

i think british and spanish defense (for example) are crap... in Argentina's Primera Division there's no way to see a defender watching, stearing in front of C.Ronaldo when he is performing his "show" play. that kind of game is simply not possible here. we have more italian style in defense. we play hard. look heinze, mascherano, coloccini (bad defender, but still a good example), milito, ayala, etc. and now there are even better defenders in local league.
in european footbal you will find faster players than around here for example. but is an impression too. cuz we stops the ball much more frequently than europeans. if you wach an european match you will see the ball rolling over the grass almost 90% of the time. it will never stops. but in argentina (for example) you will see the ball more stepped (that word is correct?). the game is not so dinamic. and is harder to run between defenders.

BTW. i agreed with Mentality 80 in one of my replies up here. the one with the new suggestions and propossing the mix with messias18's suggestions
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby lucas2491 » 2008 Dec 15, 23:19

well, due to confusion I put in one post my proposal (Is this word correct? :oops:)

Attack 87-88
Defence 45
Team Work 80
Mentality 81

someone agrees?
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby fds123 » 2008 Dec 15, 23:57

i do :)
and what about MY suggestions? :(
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby lucas2491 » 2008 Dec 16, 00:07

some of those I posted are yours ;)
with the others I think I don't agree, like in the passing ones
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Re: Martín PALERMO

Postby fds123 » 2008 Dec 16, 00:54

2 and a half minutes, Ledesma's goal. Palermo's assistance crossing a high ball.
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=mfMzTnmg7Bc

reasons for NOT giving him the penalty*:
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=0av1a45S8D0

i cant find more vids of his passes :P

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