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Madson

Postby PES Stats Database » 2014 Dec 03, 09:48

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Full Name: Madson Henrique Nascimento Santos

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Re: Madson

Postby Houy » 2017 Nov 04, 18:39

He's contributing a lot to Atromitos' defense, he's static but a good marker. I am not sure on Anchor Man, i see where it might come from but i don't know if he respresents
exactly that type of player so that might need an adjustment in the future.
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Re: Madson

Postby Houy » 2017 Nov 25, 20:06

Great game vs Pao. He can both hold his position and be very direct and aggressive in his marking at instances. He doesn't have an excess of stamina or defensive talent but he becomes very effective with the way he manages his actions throughout the game. Tactically a very usefull player.
I am leaning more towards agreeing with Anchor man, would be nice if the league games had some proper camera angles to capture his movement better. It would make things a lot easier.
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Re: Madson

Postby bitz » 2018 Apr 08, 08:37

There are a few tweaks I would make, he doesn't struck me as a very technical player, more like a combination od power and tactical prowess. He operates mostly in the center. I've seen him carry the ball and go for a shot but that's a rare occurrence as he mostly sticks to his own half. Physically he reminds me of Seba.
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Re: Madson

Postby Houy » 2018 Apr 09, 13:59

bitz wrote:There are a few tweaks I would make, he doesn't struck me as a very technical player, more like a combination od power and tactical prowess. He operates mostly in the center. I've seen him carry the ball and go for a shot but that's a rare occurrence as he mostly sticks to his own half. Physically he reminds me of Seba.


Yes he has similarities to Seba . Both aren't exactly tall but very resilient high Body Control players, they also utilize this ability in their dribbling rather than pure close control. While not at Seba's level regarding BC, i'd rate Madson higher in Physical Contact as he's capable of just brushing off opponents without much effort on his part.

When he puts his mind to dribbling ( being a yellow PC/BC player ) he can bulldoze through most midfields while running in a straight line if the opposition isn't exceptionally strong and keep his balance in the process. His DA could be a little worse though i wouldn't advise lower than 74, he's not much worse than Seba or Djalma for example.

I have him in mind as a very good Response defender, tactically solid in general as you say and kind of sloppy when it comes to his physical defending but very effective nonetheless thanks to his aforementioned strength and his savvy.

Agree on a decrease of Agg, should be below Romao and his teammate Busuladzic who's more of a DM/CM hybrid.

He's got a banger of a shot actually. Great power, good placement from afar and can perform it out of nowhere from great distances, he's threatened almost every time he's attempted it. If he were to make 2-3 of them every game i think he would have a significant goal tally by now, but it's more of a rare occurrence as you say. Though i think his SP could be raised by a couple of points in spite of that , in terms of power i'd place him only behind Bakasetas and Kone of Apollon.

These changes ok ?

BB 82->84
PC 81->82 BC 82->84
DA 75->74
Tech 78->77
KP 83->85
Resp 82->83
TW 75->76
Agg 72->68
+ Centre
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Re: Madson

Postby bitz » 2018 Apr 10, 07:03

Houy wrote:These changes ok ?

BB 82->84
PC 81->82 BC 82->84
DA 75->74
Tech 78->77
KP 83->85
Resp 82->83
TW 75->76
Agg 72->68
+ Centre


Seems fair.

I'd have BB at 83 and perhaps TS at 80. Also I see his AGI a tad lower (Romao turns more swiftly). You can see he is kinda awkward in situations where he has to adjust his body.
Something else I've noticed is his range and power behind passes, both ground and aerial. Could use 2-3 extra points there. He also has a competent left foot (he doesn't trust it for shooting though)
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Re: Madson

Postby Houy » 2018 Apr 10, 11:38

bitz wrote:
Houy wrote:These changes ok ?

BB 82->84
PC 81->82 BC 82->84
DA 75->74
Tech 78->77
KP 83->85
Resp 82->83
TW 75->76
Agg 72->68
+ Centre


Seems fair.

I'd have BB at 83 and perhaps TS at 80. Also I see his AGI a tad lower (Romao turns more swiftly). You can see he is kinda awkward in situations where he has to adjust his body.
Something else I've noticed is his range and power behind passes, both ground and aerial. Could use 2-3 extra points there. He also has a competent left foot (he doesn't trust it for shooting though)


Updated. I'll keep an eye on his BB/Agi/Weak Foot for possible adjustments
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Re: Madson

Postby Houy » 2018 Apr 15, 19:03

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Jesus.. :lol:
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Re: Madson

Postby stavrello7 » 2018 Nov 18, 18:56

Houy wrote:Image

Jesus.. :lol:


Havent seen him enough but with that gif i can see that Technique 77 is really off.
Still can't understand the way most ppl in PSD rate so high this stat.

Also you dont think he deserves more Mentality and TW ?
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Re: Madson

Postby Houy » 2018 Nov 26, 12:00

bitz had mentioned he hadn't struck him as a very technical player, i don't have a clear image of his tech atm but he looked okish yesterday. If i had to i'd put him just at greens, so he could be 1-2 points lower

he has some concentration issues, he is consistent and has a ballsy playstyle but that can be seen in other stats like resp and form. I'd also seriously consider enforcer as a playstyle and a point increase for Sta for him. I don't think a tw raise is nessessary, he makes impulsive movements but he isn't very smart about covering space or supportive. He can end up in different places on the pitch and generally doesn't lose his position but he is a different type of player than DM that's near 80 for tw in my
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btw he looked tanky yesterday in physical confrontations, might need that extra point in BB
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Re: Madson

Postby Houy » 2019 Apr 02, 12:06

He looks like high 60s Agi this season and Acc is a little worse too. He is a very ungraceful player regardless but atm he looks especially sloppy.

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