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All Time Europe All Stars

Postby PES Stats Database » 2009 Feb 20, 20:59

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Team Roster:

Goalkeepers:
_rus Lev YASHIN
_ita Dino ZOFF

Defenders:
_fra Lilian THURAM
_ita Paolo MALDINI
_eng Bobby MOORE
_ita Franco BARESI
_ger Paul BREITNER
_ita Giacinto FACCHETTI
_ger Franz BECKENBAUER

Midfielders:
_ned Frank RIJKAARD
_ger Lothar MATTHAUS
_fra Zinedine ZIDANE
_den Michael LAUDRUP
_fra Michel PLATINI
_ned Ruud GULLIT
_eng Bobby CHARLTON


Attackers:
_ned Johan CRUYFF
_nir George BEST
_por Cristiano RONALDO
_hun Ferenc PUSKÁS
_por EUSEBIO Da Silva Ferreira
_ned Marco VAN BASTEN
_ger Gerd MÜLLER

* * * * * * * * *
Reserves:

Goalkeepers:
_eng Gordon BANKS

Defenders:
_ita Gaetano SCIREA
_ita Alessandro NESTA

Midfielders:
_esp XAVI
_eng Stanley MATTHEWS
_srb Dragan DZAJIC
_rou Gheorghe HAGI

Attackers:
_ita Giuseppe MEAZZA
_ita Roberto BAGGIO

Best Ever XI:

----------------------YASHIN--------------------------
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------------------MOORE----BARESI-----------------
---THURAM-------------------------------MALDINI---
-------------------BECKENBAUER(c)-------------------
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----------CRUYFF-----PLATINI-----ZIDANE----------
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-----------------MULLER-----PUSKÁS -----------------

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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby RasniPantela » 2014 Mar 17, 09:57

Dragan dzajic?????
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby Yazid » 2014 Apr 11, 12:24

GK:
Lev YASHIN
Dino ZOFF
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Gianluigi BUFFON
Gordon BANKS

FB:
Paolo MALDINI
Giacinto FACCHETTI
Ruud KROL
Karlheinz SCHNELLINGER
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Berti VOGTS
Antonio CABRINI
Lilian THURAM

CB:
Franz BECKENBAUER
Franco BARESI
Bobby MOORE
--------------------------------
Gaetano SCIREA
Matthias SAMMER
Alessandro NESTA

DM/CM:
Lothar MATTHAUS
Frank RIJKAARD
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Ernst OCWIRK
Jozsef BOZSIK
Josef MASOPUST
Willy VAN HANEGAM

AM:
Michel PLATINI
Zinedine ZIDANE
Bobby CHARLTON
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Raymond KOPA
Gianni RIVERA
Luis SUAREZ MIRAMONTES
Michael LAUDRUP
Nils LIEDHOLM
Wolfgang OVERATH
Gheorghe HAGI
XAVI Hernandez

WINGERS:
George BEST
Stanley MATTHEWS
Dragan DZAJIC
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Luis FIGO
Francisco GENTO
Tom FINNEY

SS:
Johan CRUYFF
Ferenc PUSKAS
EUSEBIO
Roberto BAGGIO
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Giuseppe MEAZZA
Matthias SINDELAR
Karlheinz RUMMENIGGE
Cristiano RONALDO
Fritz WALTER
Valentino MAZZOLA
Thierry HENRY
Laszlo KUBALA

CF:
Gerd MULLER
Marco VAN BASTEN
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Sandor KOCSIS
Uwe SEELER
John CHARLES
Gunnar NORDAHL

Just a load of players to consider for each position, the ones above the dotted line are who I would pick for this squad.
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby RasniPantela » 2014 Apr 11, 14:47

Great list Yazid!
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby mr.Boss » 2014 Apr 11, 14:56

Not allowed to add nowadays players or you don't want to add them? Cause players like Cristiano Ronaldo should be sure there .
Also Ibra,Iniesta,Pirlo or Lahm can be there IMO.
Also i think Schmeichel is the best GK ever ,so i suggest to add him .
Pirlo is very needed cause this team has only 1 real DMF,Rijkaard .
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby Yazid » 2014 Apr 11, 18:33

^ I disagree with most, if not all of this post.

Firstly, C. Ronaldo I agree is getting very close to this squad, but would I remove one of Cruyff, Puskas, Eusebio for him? Definitely not. I''ll grant you he probably deserves a spot more than Kubala, but so do meazza, baggio, gullit and sindelar off the top of my head.

Ibra, Iniesta, Pirlo and Lahm are all great players of this era, but there are probably a dozen higher than each of them in their respective positions down history.

Schmeichel deserves consideration, he was an awesome keeper, but the ability of Yashin and longevity of Zoff are hard to argue against. I'd probably say Banks and now Buffon probably rank higher too.
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby jehoshuab » 2014 Oct 21, 16:28

i think cristiano ronaldo has passed or he is already better than figo...
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby Cr7forever » 2015 May 10, 17:49

I think that Cr7 deserves to be here objectively (forget about my pseudo :mrgreen: ).

In my opinion, Meazza must be dropped and Cr7 must be in the team roster instead of George Best.

And Xavi instead of Matthews.
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby electric_trigger » 2015 May 17, 23:09

Cr7 instead of George Best? Really? :)
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby VReznoV » 2015 May 18, 06:15

Xavi can't be instead of Matthews, Xavi is CMF and Matthews is WF. If you want Xavi in this roster, you should say "And Xavi instead of Matthaus", but Matthaus > Xavi.

P.S : How about Gyula Grosic in Reserves?
someone should burn Ballon d'Or trophy
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby Cr7forever » 2015 May 18, 22:07

VReznoV wrote:Xavi can't be instead of Matthews, Xavi is CMF and Matthews is WF. If you want Xavi in this roster, you should say "And Xavi instead of Matthaus", but Matthaus > Xavi.

P.S : How about Gyula Grosic in Reserves?



I know that, don't worry ;) . I think that Matthews is not good enough to be in such a squad. Besides, adding 1 more CMF is not a bad idee in my opinion. Matthaus is the only one CMF for the moment (Rijkaard is more a DMF and Gullit a AM ).

And yeah, I think that C.Ronaldo is better than Best.

Grosic instead of who? Banks, Yachine and Zoff are 3 of the best GK of all time.
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby jurgens » 2015 May 18, 22:33

best is pretty widely regarded as being one of the top 3 wingers of all time.. ronaldo isn't even close to top 10
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby Frans » 2015 May 19, 01:16

I'd add in Xavi, at his prime he dominated the game for three years and made every opposing midfielder look amateur really.
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby VReznoV » 2015 May 19, 07:58

Cr7forever wrote:
VReznoV wrote:Xavi can't be instead of Matthews, Xavi is CMF and Matthews is WF. If you want Xavi in this roster, you should say "And Xavi instead of Matthaus", but Matthaus > Xavi.

P.S : How about Gyula Grosic in Reserves?



I know that, don't worry ;) . I think that Matthews is not good enough to be in such a squad. Besides, adding 1 more CMF is not a bad idee in my opinion. Matthaus is the only one CMF for the moment (Rijkaard is more a DMF and Gullit a AM ).

And yeah, I think that C.Ronaldo is better than Best.

Grosic instead of who? Banks, Yachine and Zoff are 3 of the best GK of all time.


Hmmm, I think CR7 can't be added to this roster
someone should burn Ballon d'Or trophy
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby Cr7forever » 2015 May 21, 20:40

Really ?

At least, he deserves to be in the substitute team.

In fact, it depends: is Cr7 a winger or a second striker (SA)? It's difficult to decide.
What do you think?

If he is a winger, his principal contestant is Best.
If he is a second striker, it's probably Puskas, Kubala, Meazza. (Not Cruyff, because he is probably the best european player of all time and the best player after Pele and Maradona)

After, strikers such as Muller, Van Basten and Eusebio are impossible to budge.
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby jurgens » 2015 May 24, 09:52

Cr7forever wrote:Really ?

At least, he deserves to be in the substitute team.

In fact, it depends: is Cr7 a winger or a second striker (SA)? It's difficult to decide.
What do you think?

If he is a winger, his principal contestant is Best.
If he is a second striker, it's probably Puskas, Kubala, Meazza. (Not Cruyff, because he is probably the best european player of all time and the best player after Pele and Maradona)

After, strikers such as Muller, Van Basten and Eusebio are impossible to budge.



thats really the problem with cr7. Hes really not a winger, but hes not really an SS either... his position on field is more winger, but he plays more like an SS. As a winger, couldn't have him over people like best... he falls short and as an SS... its mostly the same, others just do the job better and less hybrid. Another problem is that all the teams cr7 is in, they completly build around him and play for him. obviously that could not happen in a team with allstars. Hes a great goal scorer, but and his achievements arguably warrant him having a place, but myself and others just don't rank him that highly in comparison with the other players in here.
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby VReznoV » 2015 May 24, 10:24

It's only my opinion, I think the big difference between Best and Cristiano is their 'Effect for the Team'

I mean, when Best play, he play for the team
and that's make United, not only Best, can be better, even legend

In other side, when Cristiano play, team play for him
and that's make Ronaldo can be better easily, and Madrid never improved

So, I think Best better than Ronaldo.

Hmmm, my opinion almost same as Jurgens
someone should burn Ballon d'Or trophy
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby Frans » 2015 May 24, 12:19

no best didn't play for the team, he was in-fact a very selfish player - charlton and law mention this many times, just look at some clips of his teammates speaking about him on youtube. there's a quote flying around that the manager said "give the ball to best whenever possible". he wasn't even a traditional winger anyway, just look at the positions he takes in his many of his goals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwRtUTzgRwU.

i love best but i think he's somewhat shrouded in legend. ronaldo is more deserving of a spot.
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby Frans » 2015 May 24, 12:20

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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby VReznoV » 2015 May 24, 13:05

aww, they no difference, well, that's my opinion, so tragic for me T_T
someone should burn Ballon d'Or trophy
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Re: All Time Europe All Stars

Postby Cr7forever » 2015 May 24, 13:54

Cr7 is playing like a SS, is positionned as a winger (WF) and he scores twice more than a very good striker (Van Nistelrooy, Shevchenko, Raul, Eto'o....) :mrgreen:

In my opinion, Cr7 is better than Best in the sense that he is very often determinant with his exceptional scoring abilities (Great Header and Jump, Powerful Shot, Ability to be in the right place in the right time), Best was just a better dribbler.

Of course, we cannot put him with a pure Striker (Inzaghi, Gerd Muller) but with Puskas or Van Basten who have good technique and passing abilities and are outstanding goalscorers too.

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