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Netherlands All Stars

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 22, 22:03

Netherlands All Stars

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Manager: _ned Rinus MICHELS

Team Roster:

Goalkeepers:
Edwin VAN DER SAR - _eng Manchester United
Hans VAN BREUKELEN - _ned PSV Eindhoven

Defenders:
Ruud KROL - _ned AFC Ajax
Ronald KOEMAN - _esp FC Barcelona
Jaap STAM - _eng Manchester United
Frank DE BOER - _ned AFC Ajax
Wim SUURBIER - _ned AFC Ajax
Cor VAN DER HART - _ned Fortuna '54
Giovanni VAN BRONCKHORST - _esp Barcelona


Midfielders:
Frank RIJKAARD - _ita AC Milan
Johan NEESKENS - _esp FC Barcelona
Willem VAN HANEGEM - _ned Feyenoord
Arie HAAN - _ned AFC Ajax
Wesley SNEIJDER - _ita Inter Milan
Edgar DAVIDS - _ita Juventus
Ruud GULLIT - _ita A.C Milan

Strikers:
Johan CRUYFF - _ned AFC Ajax
Marco VAN BASTEN - _ita AC Milan
Rob RENSENBRINK - _bel Anderlecht
Dennis BERGKAMP - _eng Arsenal
Arjen ROBBEN- _ger Bayern Munich
Faas WILKES- _ita Inter Milan
Patrick KLUIVERT - _esp FC Barcelona

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Reserves:

Goalkeepers:
Jan VAN BEVEREN- _ned PSV Eindhoven

Defenders:
Michael REIZIGER - _esp FC Barcelona

Midfielders:
Clarence SEEDORF - _ita AC Milan
Phillip COCU - _esp Barcelona

Strikers:
Ruud VAN NISTELROOY - _eng Manchester United
Johnny REP - _ned AFC Ajax
Piet KEIZER - _ned AFC Ajax
Coen MOULIJN - _ned Feyenoord
Abe LENSTRA _ned SC Heerenveen

Best Ever XI:


-----------------VAN DER SAR-------------------
--------------------R.KOEMAN----------------------
-SUURBIER-------------RIJKAARD------------------KROL-
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------------NEESKENS-------VAN HANEGEM-------
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---------------------BERGKAMP-------------------
----GULLIT-----------------------------CRUYFF
-------------------VAN BASTEN--------------------

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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby SpongeBob » 2010 Jul 08, 10:25

No, Rensenbrink was million times better than Robben and Sneijder will ever be together. I agree they should be here but you
can't esclude these two. This generation from 70's was much,much better than this actual, no matter they didn't win WC and
this actual may even win 3-4 WC's but they will never be on same level as these old guys. Maybe this actual will be more
significant for dutch NT but they surely won't be better than this great players from total football golden time. Never.
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby mcmattie » 2010 Jul 08, 11:06

I made it this way:

-----------------Van der Sar---------------------
--------------------R. Koeman-------------------
------------Rijkaard------------Krol--------------
--------------------Neeskens--------------------
------------ R. de Boer-------Seedorf-------------
---------------------Bergkamp-------------------
-Gullit----------------------------------Cruyff(c)-
-------------------Van Basten--------------------

With substitutes/reserves:
Jongbloed, Van Breukelen;
F. de Boer, Suurbier, Stam, Hulshoff, Van Bronckhorst, Bouma, Mijnals, Numan;
Van Hanegem, Davids, Sneijder, Van der Vaart, Van Bommel, Vanenburg;
Van Nistelrooy, Robben, Kluivert, Van Persie, Rensenbrink, Van Hooijdonk.

Nice vid about the dutch art of football:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW9Bi-NPOaw
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby locoloco » 2010 Dec 06, 00:39

Wasn't Bergkamp better than Rensenbrink? i am just suggesting :)
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby mcmattie » 2010 Dec 07, 17:47

Perhaps, but Bergkamp is no WF. Rensenbrink was really good too btw. He became 2nd ('76) and 3d ('78) in the European Footballer of the Year Aword.

When I click the link of Sneijder, I come to the Seedorf thread. So either chose Seedorf there or fix the link please. Putting Sneijder in it is not a bad idea because of his achievements in 2010, but Seedorf should be in it too, so it's a bit of a dillemma.

This is pretty helpful too if you want: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_ ... tbalelftal
You can sort the list on caps/goals/nr. of caps as captain etc.
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby rivermipasion » 2010 Dec 08, 00:25

And Robben??? Is Sneijder but not Robben??? Robben was the best player in Netherland in 2010.
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby mcmattie » 2010 Dec 08, 00:57

Robben had an amazing season for Bayern in 09/10, but he was not thát important for the national team. There were many many dutch people in history who were that important for a club team, but they aren't in here as well.
Sneijder was, beside being very imporant for his club team, also far more imortant to the national team. So in that sense to create an all star team of all times, I can understand to put Sneijder in it. But Seedorf should be in it too. ;)
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby locoloco » 2010 Dec 27, 02:00

But Cruyff can play as WF and Bergkamp as Midfielder, or you can change the formation too
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby Luisao82 » 2010 Dec 27, 05:43

With so many awesome dutch players through out history, Bergkamp will hardly grab a place in the starting lineup.

It's so much quality.
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby mcmattie » 2010 Dec 28, 19:28

Bergkamp should definitely be in the starting lineup imo. It would also create a more balanced team with players from each era. But the problem is that Van Basten must be in it as CF. Bergkamp would than replace Rensenbrink. Cruijff could indeed play as WF and Gullit too. Bergkamp can be put as an AMF. It's also possible to play with an AMF(Cruijff), SS and SS (Bergkamp,Gullit) and CF (Van Basten).
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby Luisao82 » 2010 Dec 29, 06:59

Well, the idea of an All Star roster is definitely not to balance the team according to the different Eras, is it?

Rensenbrink was not less quality then Bergkamp, he scored 14 goals for Netherlands and proved a bit crucial when Cruijff retired. Therefore, one should be very thoughtful before deciding to remove him from the starting eleven.
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby mcmattie » 2010 Dec 29, 13:23

It's not just that the team would be more balanced. (But I still like it if the team would be more balanced) But I think Bergkamp was one of the best attackers ever. I see him as a better player than Rensenbrink.
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby Pirata Almanega » 2011 Nov 26, 12:39

And this picture there?
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby mcmattie » 2011 Nov 26, 13:48

Yeah please delete that aweful pic... :shock:

Btw:

The following players are kind of missing:
Abe Lentra
Giovanni van Bronckhorst
Philip Cocu
Wim Jansen
Rinus Israel

There are some typos btw:
PSV Eindhoven
Cor van der Hart
Coen Moulijn

Robben should be with the attackers.
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby jurgens » 2011 Nov 26, 14:46

Who is that in that pic? Why is it there... deleted.
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby locoloco » 2011 Dec 04, 06:53

The 4-2-3-1 is by far the best formation to this team
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby Brezza » 2011 Dec 04, 16:17

It probably is, but I'd tried to be true to the Dutch's 4-3-3 roots :P Cruyff and Bergkamp would probably both play as SS behind Van Basten.. What an amazing front three :shock:
Added some players/made corrections from mcmattie's post, Maybe Seedorf > Haan?


what was the picture thing all about? :|
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby mcmattie » 2012 Jan 12, 13:42

I made a set for Jan van Beveren (more accurate than Zingo's set) and Giovanni van Bronckhorst (which represents him at his peak)
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby AlexDantas2009 » 2012 Mar 07, 20:28

-----------------Van Breukelen-------------------
--------------------Stam----------------------
-Suurbier-------------R. Koeman------------------Krol-
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-------------Neeskens-------Van Hanegem-------
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---------------------Gullit-------------------
Bergkamp------------------------------------Cruyff
-------------------Van Basten--------------------
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby locoloco » 2012 Jun 11, 17:17

This is a different formation, but could maybe be the best formation to put all the brilliant players in the team.

*: Neeskens was a SB in the start of his carreer, and Rensenbrink was a LW who returned to defend, so they can play WB in my opinion.

---------------------------------------- Van der Sar ---------------------------------------------
------------------------------------- Ronald Koeman -------------------------------------------
------------- Riikjard -------------------------------------------------- Krol -----------------
------------------------------------- Van Hanegen -------------------------------------------
---- Neeskens ----------------------------------------------------------- Reensenbrink ----
----------------------- Gullit ----------------- Cruyff (C) ------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------- Bergkamp ------------------------
----------------------------------- Van Basten ----------------------------------------------

Coach: Rinus Michels - the team would move a lot...
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Re: Netherlands All Stars

Postby Peppino meazza » 2012 Jun 28, 12:06

Where is Ronald De Boer he's great play maker in the 90's to Netherlands
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