jurgens wrote:(lol) you have no idea of Uruguay's past then.
Jurgens, I'd like to read why don't you think like me. Please don't provocate me with this type of sentences, it hasn't sense really. I don't want problems; you can say with the same sense before say that: Are you sure? Why do you think that?. I think that's better and to don't create useless bad ambient.
vickingo_73 wrote:I firmly believe that this generation of players has to be at All Stars, they made great things and probably is the most solid (probably) Uruguayan team ever. Lugano, Luis Suarez and Cavani could be considered appart from Forlan.
Wow, I can't believe that you just seriously wrote that.
Why? Haven't they enough level or be candidates to be? Just because of be contemporary players? I mean this cause they are a "gold" (I don't know if it's the best way to describe cause they didn't win a WC) generation in a may be the most difficult era to play in SouthAmerica because of all teams' level. Also, making an excellent performance in 2010 WC, where nobody gave nothing to them. I'm not sayin' that they has to be in the principal list, yes to be considered at least to be reserves. About the whole team, I'm not sayin' that's the best, not even closer to that. I'm meaning (probably I didn't expresed it in a proper way) that it's a serious proyect (LONG time that there aren't a good one in Southamerica) with a serious coach (Maestro Tabarez) and with mostly world class players, or at least in big teams of the world. These type of threads are pretty difficult to make cause are different the criteria in many of it...if are because of class, or importance in his teams, or importance in NT, play better in NT than in a proper team, etc (Most issue here, Messi at NT). This group of boys put Uruguay again in "world map". Qualified to 2010 WC (being the 5° team and playing a re-qualification? I think that, but I don't remember, cause Uruguay always played this the lastest years), made an incredible WC and being a real "team" with all the words...compact, solid, with excellent results, many eggs in each player, class in Forlan and goals in Suarez/Cavani; the midfield with 2/3 destroyers and the "garra charrúa"; at the back line, 4 hard defenders leaded by an incredible teamworker and mental player as Lugano; also with great performances of his keeper Muslera. I repeat, I'm not sayin' that this team is better than 1930's/1950's or even 1986's/90's era. But for sure, could be AT LEAST considered. The most impressive thing IMO is the unpredictable that was this group of players, I mean...who gave $5 by them before the WC and when were just cuasi-eliminated? (Do you remember Bolatti's goal in the lasts minutes in Centenario stadium?). I think that this group of players, with all their deficiences, showed his main virtue as a group, and obviously supported in high values (obviously leaded by Forlan futbolistic talking), but as I've said before Lugano was/is an incredible key and he reminds me Paolo Montero A-LOT in his way of playing and that out of this world mentality, also supported with a Copa America won as visitors in Argentina, winning clear the final against a hard team as Paraguay, making a brilliant match and winning the best prize ever (after WC). Also this era is growing in 2014 WC qualification. Sinceraly I don't understand why they can't be considerated here, at least as substitutes. As most of you know, I'm a faith follower of this group since the last WC 2010 qualification, and obviously that I've watched everymatch of them, and I can say that with many support. I repeat, they aren't brilliant but they're making great things in an era where wasn't really expected. BTW, i'm not the only crazy that thinks that, tasmin said something about Lugano, also Alexalibur about Suarez and beiderbecke too, julgui in the last page claimed for Lugano, Brezza updated with Lugano and then was deleted. Compare him with Matosas or Nelson Gutierrez, remember that Lugano won an American Cup being figure and one of the best in the team and also was 4° in a 32 teams WC where Uruguay wasn't candidate even to qualificate to the finals stages being pretty solid and showing an amazing level. Matosas was 4° in 1970's WC but I think that he didn't win any tournament; Nelson Gutierrez was in that great team in 80's era (i don't know if he played in 1987's American Cup won by Uruguay), but Lugano has merits to be at least considered, don't you think so? What about Atilio Ancheta? Just 20 games in NT, integred that team of 1970 and he was great but...Lugano played 65 games, was a key everytime and won an American Cup, and has the same merit to be 4° in a WC. So...I don't think that's so crazy. That's my opinion. If won't be changed (or at least discussed or considered), I won't comment more cause it hasn't sense, there's no probalem. I want just to give my opinion and I'm pretty sure that more than me thinks this