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Sokratis Papastathopoulos

Postby PES Stats Database » 2008 Dec 09, 13:57

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Re: Sokratis PAPASTATHOPOULOS

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Aug 21, 20:16

Agree with new values - Isn't a rule or manual to follow but I rate attack for CB as their capacity to loose their defender mark (same as strikers) in corners and other set pieces; how intelligent he is with his movement to positionate in a goal scoring position. Sum it with a good reaction, a huge leap and nice header (header isnt mire important because of accuracy) and we have an attacker CB. Notice how konami rates this CB typo players as Vidic.
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Re: Sokratis PAPASTATHOPOULOS

Postby Hayame » 2012 Aug 22, 13:39

SO it´s the same way i rate it :). So I could also klife with an attack 65.
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Re: Sokratis PAPASTATHOPOULOS

Postby artingei » 2012 Sep 03, 23:01

He´s a murder, one of the best defenders in the bundesliga. (Magazine "kicker" putted him on place 6 last season http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/spieltag/1-bundesliga/2011-12/topspieler-der-saison-abwehr.html) Should get much better attributes. Futhermore his main position is CB which he also played at genua and in the national team. Can throw the ball to the moon.


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Re: Sokratis PAPASTATHOPOULOS

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Oct 21, 01:58

We should change his main position back to CB, also I'd like to suggest a little higher DEF and much higher RES, especially response is his strong point. Also his passing needs to be evaluated.
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Re: Sokratis PAPASTATHOPOULOS

Postby stavrello7 » 2012 Oct 21, 15:32

Malakayi wrote:We should change his main position back to CB, also I'd like to suggest a little higher DEF and much higher RES, especially response is his strong point. Also his passing needs to be evaluated.



Agree for all, natural position was ever CB, he played SB when needed and he did very well.
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Re: Sokratis PAPASTATHOPOULOS

Postby Kruger13 » 2012 Oct 21, 23:27

Agree with higher DEF and RES, I think that DEF can be +1/2 max due his isn't too clean and commit fouls very often but his response should be by 3 points at least higher than his defense as it is his main strong point. About passes I havent a concrete value for them. And *CB.
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Re: Sokratis Papastathopoulos

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Dec 24, 15:19

updated, some already agreed things as well as some of my own ideas.

DEF 80 -> 82
HEA 78 -> 80 ...heading isn't below average for a CB.
SPA 72 -> 75 ...solid passer, rarely misplaces a pass.
SPS 73 -> 79 ...likes to play them long and gives the ball a nice speed.
LPA 69 -> 71 ...bad crosser but not that bad.
LPS 73 -> 77 ...pacy long balls.
SA 65 -> 66

RES 82 -> 85
EP 78 -> 77

BB 84 -> 85
STA 85 -> 83 ...old value was a bit excessive imo.
JUM 82 -> 83

ATT aw 1 -> 2

add P17 - Offensive Sideback ...likes to join the attack or just do a Lucio and dribble upfront though Lucio is much better at it. ^.^
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Re: Sokratis Papastathopoulos

Postby Karbrüggen » 2013 Feb 01, 21:26

i suggest to raise his jump, he can jump such high. also on header he is stronger than 80

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Re: Sokratis Papastathopoulos

Postby KeyserSoze » 2013 May 28, 21:42

Dortmund has signed Sokratis on a 5-year contract, as a replacement of Felipe Santana:
http://www.bvb.de/?%87%ECZ%1B%E7%F4%9C%5Ch%E2%84%9F
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Re: Sokratis Papastathopoulos

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Re: Sokratis Papastathopoulos

Postby reQ » 2014 Jan 10, 15:27

This guy, who became a keyplayer in dortmund, needs imo an update. Defends, Teamwork and Aggression, the rest is a quite well done set ;) .
Sokratis was recently voted in germany to the top centre-back of the Bundesliga, even better than J. Boateng (source: bundesliga.de). In season 12/13, in Werder Bremen, he was already under the top5 of centre-backs. In the past champions league matches his tacklingrate was over 85%!!! Furthermore he is one of the guys in the defence who takes the most tackles in the Liga and i recently read an article on inside11, that Sokratis had the best tacklingrate of the first half of season 13/14. maybe its also time to add some index cards. What do u think?
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Re: Sokratis Papastathopoulos

Postby Karbrüggen » 2014 Jan 11, 23:28

Yeah! he played very strong the last time after subotics injury. inconspicuous but always reliable with good timing. Sokratis got definitely better than last summer when he came from Bremen - update would be fair! Def and Tw are good points for a raise
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Re: Sokratis Papastathopoulos

Postby reQ » 2014 Mar 25, 22:04

DEF should be around 86, he is playing extremely strong. In times like these when Hummels isn't in good form the defends stands and falls with Sokratis and he is doing awesomely good!! if we consider other CB's here in the database and comparing them to Sokratis he definitely should be in the range of the top guys.

Stamina: +2

Form 5 doesnt fit to his performance he showed over the last months. He is always playing so strong. He deserved already Form 6 in Bremen.

Tenacity: +1-2 even late he is playing really strong, he is a real fighter.
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Re: Sokratis Papastathopoulos

Postby reQ » 2014 Mar 26, 12:18

fortunately i found a current clip. He is beast.
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Though I really like his movement with the ball, quite aggressive for a CB, with nice light-footedness. 2:05, 2:22, 2:35, 2:50, 3:08 as example
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Re: Sokratis Papastathopoulos

Postby Kruger13 » 2014 May 06, 02:28

He always has been an aggressive center-back, but that is his double-edged sword because that aggressive style makes him to recover/anticipate a lot a balls with his response but makes him to leave a lot of gaps in defence. He has the ''greek genotype'', a warrior in the pitch same as Kyriakos. I like current set, i think it stills represents him just I'll go with lower TW 74/76, a bit harsh that would make him to be more exposed as he is in reality working as a combo with his RES+ATT/AWA. Disagree with higher STA, current value is top class, just few exceptional CB has higher stamina value in the database and others are because they play as side-back regularly. I can live with a small boost in TEN. Finally, his Cond is good at 5, during current season he had some games to remember, some games to forget.
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Re: Sokratis Papastathopoulos

Postby čale » 2014 May 06, 08:51

why not just swap Attack and Defensive Awareness to get the desired result? although the TW decrease is really mandatory.
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Re: Sokratis Papastathopoulos

Postby reQ » 2014 May 15, 06:35

finally i found the scene i was looking for.
Sokratis races with CR7.

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really liked that moment, how well he managed CR7.
Even when he creates gaps he seems to return really fast to his position :lol:.
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Re: Sokratis Papastathopoulos

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Re: Sokratis Papastathopoulos

Postby reQ » 2014 Sep 17, 11:11

i made a Vs against Arsenal. after recording i just noticed that i chose the wrong settings but nvm and after cutting the stuff and watching it scene by scene i have to mention that Subotic even deserved more a Vs. Both and also Bender were just outstanding yesterday.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x264pwk_25-sok_people

Edit: for me he is always a candidate for higher Res
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Re: Sokratis Papastathopoulos

Postby Houy » 2016 Feb 13, 11:52

I have watched him a lot in the past 2 years in NT and Dortmund .I suggest raising his Def to 86 and resp to 87,he is a defense of his own,he needs top resp along with his top tenacity for his fast reactions and effectiveness on top of being so persistent .

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