Sokratis Papastathopoulos

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[Ramindbroken]

I was just going to ask if he still deserved this values, and you just suggest even higher numbers?

[Houy]

why would he not be worth these values?a higher def at least since i consider him a better defender than Manolas ,no need to mention Subotic who he has pushed to the bench,and is at 87 although he is kind of overrated.I cant be sure about his speed though ,dont know if he is quite as fast now.

[reQ]

no need to talk about his DEF skills. i think this last game against FCB (DFB-Pokal Final) he showed what is able to accomplish when is in form, that was defensive performance in perfection. he didn't made that penalty but okay, he is a defender and he made his job extremely good. Besides he was the one u couldn't see any effects of tiring. For me he is definitely a candidate for higher STA, close to orange or even orange!!
About his speed

dont know if he is quite as fast now

. As mentioned before, he is really fast. Maybe boateng is as fast as him, but right now no one (CB's) pops in my mind who is that fast in the german bundesliga, even on the ball. So here he is still underrated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfprRI81dBk&t=0m12s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfprRI81dBk&t=1m49s

[PIPA23]

yeah i watched that game, he was unbelieveable....

one of best performances i have seen in a long time by a defender.

[Houy]

Just want to call attention to this set again,he should be at a higher tier for Def/Resp, 86+/87+ for me,he also madkes these offensive runs in the Nt often,marauding ,going up the field as far as he can when he has no other option,so i suggest a green AGG at 78,he moves close to the last third frequently when he is needed a lot of the time other than that.He is a better defender than Manolas both for DEF and Resp(Manolas is at 86/85),only losing in pure speed,different league but probably the best comparion since they are a NT duo.

[amrxox]

he has the fighting spirit like ramos and diego costa

[Houy]

Someone's got to be watching him right ? that Agg suggestion is nonsense btw

He needs a good looking into though .

[Houy]

Spoiler: show

Attack: 62
Defence: 85
Balance: 84
Stamina: 80
Top Speed: 80
Acceleration: 74
Response: 84
Agility: 69
Dribble Accuracy: 72
Dribble Speed: 70
Short Pass Accuracy: 73
Short Pass Speed: 79
Long Pass Accuracy: 77
Long Pass Speed: 80
Shot Accuracy: 64
Shot Power: 79
Shot Technique: 65
Free Kick Accuracy: 62
Curling: 69
Header: 80
Jump: 83
Technique: 74
Aggression: 60
Mentality: 90
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 78

Condition/Fitness: 4
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 4

ATTACK / DEFENCE AWARENESS: 2/3

NEW STATS:
Attack Prowess: 62
Defense Prowess: 84
Ball Winning: 85
Body Control: 70
Physical Contact: 84

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
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PLAYER INDEX CARDS:

A revised set. I've gone through 12 of the available games on Footballia spanning from his first couple of games to the recent tie vs Tottenham and i am basing the set on impressions from these games .

Sokratis looked out of shape in his first appearances, a bit slow in his reactions and out of line with the rest of the team. Closing on mid-season games he was more well adjusted and closer to familiar standards. Regardless, he has declined in physical stats. He plays more on his decisiveness and experience clearing danger rather than going off position and hunting down marks as his M.O. . Doesn't rely on raw speed and power as much as he used to . He still is notoriously physical and aggressive ofcourse with his share of do or die efforts and tackles this season .

He is less outgoing in general at Arsenal, and that goes for his behavior on the ball and his position on the pitch as well. He holds down the fort, hardly takes creative liberties from what i've seen. Very different from the majority of his time at Dortmund but he has been slowly moving to less and less attacking play for a long time now. Toned down technical stats too, he was likely never this good in his prime. Though he liked to get forward i don't think he was ever too adventurous with his passing, had good agility and could ran on the ball very well for a defender giving him some solid mobility and elusiveness with he ball .

Looking at a classic set i think for 15-17 for his prime would be best. Beside physical abilities he would be higher for Att, Resp and Agg .

We have users who watch Arsenal regularly so thoughts and opinions on him and the set are definitely welcome. I would like to hear on his consistency in particular, i left it at 4 since i haven't seen him throughout the season, but also his performance in defense in general.

* I remember being surprised by the Acc/AgI downgrade at the time it happened as it looked removed from what i had seen of him forever at that point. That said i tried looking at it from that perspective reviewing him, and gave more credit to it in those first games where he was looking like low 70s Acc, more rigid and less responsive but ultimately he regained his current mobility. I don't believe he has been as fast as 83 TS for a couple of years now in any case, so that combo just doesn't quite work for me.