Formations & Tactics (Updated 23/04/2019)

[masterguitar]

[masterguitar]

the "newer" formation take out Souza and put Ortigoza (SS) but let me see how Palmeiras will play without Pierre
Pierre come back fast PLEASE!

[rafzin]

The formation will change in future with the arrival of Love and the injury of Pierre
More such formation was the most used by Muricy until the game against sao paulo

[masterguitar]

Yeah I know I just say it to known that you know

something like that

[masterguitar]

Palmeiras with Felipão plays like that at the first half:



FORMATION:
GK: 12. Marcos

RCB: 15. Mauricio Ramos
CCB(LCB): 23. Danilo
LCB(LB): 26. FABRÍCIO

RWB(RB): 8. MÁRCIO ARAÚJO
RDMF: 3. EDINHO (5. Pierre)
LDMF: 5. Pierre (3. EDINHO)
CMF: 28. MARCOS ASSUNÇÃO
LWB(LSM): 11. RIVALDO
AMF(SS): 10. VALDÍVIA

CF: 30. KLÉBER

(Felipão always did same substitutions at second half so I'll post it another day )

[masterguitar]

Palmeiras now is using their "perfect" formation and that is it:



Short Free Kick: Marcos Assunção
Long Free Kick: Marcos Assunção
Left Corner: Marcos Assunção
Right Corner: Marcos Assunção
Penalty Kick: Kléber

[Pirata Almanega]

Update pls.

[masterguitar]

Update pls.

waiting for more games

[squallzinn]

-----------------------------MARCOS------------------------------
-------------------M. RAMOS-----T. HELENO------------------
----CICINHO------------------------------------------G. SILVA---
------------------M. ARAÚJO--M. ASSUNÇÃO----------------
-----------------------------VALDIVIA------------------------------
-----M. LEITE-------------KLEBER-----------------JUAN-------

[masterguitar]

Probably when Henrique enter in the team Mauricio Ramos goes out so:

[rafzin]

IMO maikon play on RSS

[masterguitar]

IMO maikon play on RSS

Like Luan that some games is more LWF than LMF Maikon did the same thing, some times at SS and others at RWF.
I choose to put him as RWF cause this last 2/3 games you can see Maikon and Luan changing sides, and both plays better as WF than SS in my opinion.

[masterguitar]

Oh s**t, this need an urgent update!
this is my suggestion:

FORMATION:
GK: 22. Deola

RB: 2. Cicinho
RCB: 36. Leandro Amaro
LCB: 3. Henrique
LB: 6. Juninho

DMF: 8. Márcio Araújo
CMF: 20. Marcos Assunção
SMF: 16. João Vitor
AMF: 10. Valdivia / 83. Daniel Carvalho

WF/SS: 7. Maikon Leite
CF: 29. Barcos



Captain: Marcos Assunção
Short Free Kick: Marcos Assunção/Daniel Carvalho
Long Free Kick: Marcos Assunção
Free Kick 2: Daniel Carvalho
Left Corner: Marcos Assunção
Right Corner: Marcos Assunção
Penalty Taker: Barcos
Players To Go Up: Leandro Amaro, Henrique

[masterguitar]

This really need an update, and I don't have the ability to do that at the first post anymore, so here is my suggestion. This was the last formation, used against Corinthians, and is the one I think works best with the current squad.



FORMATION:
GK: 1. Fernando Prass

RB: 32. Lucas
RCB: 26. Jackson
LCB: 31. Vitor Hugo
LB: 66. Egídio

DMF: 18. Gabriel
RCMF: 5. Arouca
LCMF/AMF: 11. Zé Roberto (c)
RMF/RWF: 29. Kelvin
LMF/LWF: 19. Rafael Marques

SS: 10. Valdívia

[Vickingo]

Isn't Rafael Marques the CF?

[masterguitar]

Isn't Rafael Marques the CF?

not at all, at Palmeiras he never played as a CF.
All games, since he came he played at the sides (he said one time he prefer that way, and Oswaldo seems to agree with him).

The thing at this formation is that Valdivia play as a False Nine, but at all time all 4 mid/atacking players change their positions (most common to see Zé and Valdivia changing, R. Marques and Kelvin changing sides and both getting at the box, but also helping marking without the ball)

edit:

Spoiler: show

Just to illustrate this, here is one last game snapshot showing this positioning, with both Kelvin and R. Marques at the sides and Valdivia as a False Nine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxzkqeNj7aw

[Vickingo]

That's great thanks. Unfortunately with new tool for formations I wouln't like to add it without having the starter eleven with missing players. We're missing Jackson for example. Could you try those sets using new standards? That would be very helpful.

[masterguitar]

That's great thanks. Unfortunately with new tool for formations I wouln't like to add it without having the starter eleven with missing players. We're missing Jackson for example. Could you try those sets using new standards? That would be very helpful.

For sure, will try to work on some players, finally getting some vacation
Probably this formation will change, considering that Palmeiras just changed its manager and some players are coming and others leaving.

[toaad]

The squad is pretty much complete here on PSD. For his the club of which I am a fan, it was the first team that I updated here in the site.

Some observations:

- Palmeiras plays a direct football (much criticized by the media and fans) and therefore some values ​​like TW are low (especially for the WF's and AMF's) since these have an essential work in attacking the spaces in the movements of transition to the attack . This occupation of spaces aggressively results in a characteristic of the attribute RESPONSE and AGRESSION being high for those positions (WF - since they are close to the opposing goal to have amplitude and depth; AMF - that attack the space created by Deyverson and goes up to attack (depth) the second ball after Deyverson make his classic pivot move - most in the air).

In short:

- Palmeiras is a team that attacks in a fluid, transient and aggressive way. The team mark's by individual short fittings on the oposition ball carrier, folding the pass line into an intense covering system.
Alsom they had many difficulties in proposing the game, building up.

As with any non-positional system, the SB's are naturally offensive but by the tactics of the team has a lot of defensive work. As with any non-positional attack system, the SB on the side that is on the ball is free to rise to the attack while the opposing SB is in a more defensive position.
DMF's is essential in the pressure with the opponent that is with the ball and in the lateral covers.
The CMF's is an aggressive infiltrator but also helps in building-up when it is necessary to use this tactic.
The AMF's practically little build-up and is worried about attacking the spaces of the CF or making a table and leaving aggressively to the goal (For that reason Lucas and Guerra does not have regularity in the team).
The WF's are extremely aggressive and have full infiltration freedom, however, they do not participate in the off ball building-up moves being fundamental and have breadth and depth in the opponent's defensive field). They are the main playmakers of the team when a more cadenced game is needed. That is, little approach in buid-up (more aggressiveness in positioning) but essences in playmaking.


Do you guys think that, due to the quality of the squad, the team could produce more? What are your expectations for the team this year?