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Carlos Sánchez

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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby gotaa » 2012 May 04, 23:02

So, I'd say: DEF 60, RESP 70, FKA 70, 71 Header and green Mentality (IMO he's pure Stamina, but doesn't deserve such a high value in Ment). Do you agree?
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby xeneize » 2012 May 04, 23:08

agree, since were not raitn MENT accordign to never give up maybe, he don't deserve so good value, less with his so good STA
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2012 May 04, 23:10

What about my past thoughts about Technique? Agree with those values, not sure abou t giving so low mentality, as he puts a lot of effort many times...I know that he is really far from being a leader or so, but 71 will be a bit harsh, may be it's just my view there. Totally agree with that response...btw not sure if 60 in def+70 in resp will make him so idiot at defending when sometimes he's at least decent.
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby gotaa » 2012 May 04, 23:22

Yeah I forgot it. No way deserves 80 in Technique. About MENT, I was talking about a green one. I thought 60 was the value of Clemente Rodriguez in DEF, my mistake then. Anyways, I think he doesn't deserve so much better DEF than Clemente, while we rated with a 63 players such as Canever or Vella and with a 64 is among the better SMF in the world at defense. What number do you think of? BTW Response is said to make side players run into the center of the field, there are SMF with 74 or 75 in other leagues, maybe 70 is too harsh (I was rating him as a SB, sorry) but undoubtely needs to go down.
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2012 May 05, 00:16

gotaa wrote:About MENT, I was talking about a green one.


My mistake, I misread, I'm sorry. Agree with green ment.

I thought 60 was the value of Clemente Rodriguez in DEF, my mistake then. Anyways, I think he doesn't deserve so much better DEF than Clemente, while we rated with a 63 players such as Canever or Vella and with a 64 is among the better SMF in the world at defense. What number do you think of? BTW Response is said to make side players run into the center of the field, there are SMF with 74 or 75 in other leagues, maybe 70 is too harsh (I was rating him as a SB, sorry) but undoubtely needs to go down.


In response i'd go for something like 73, less than the average to replicate his awful reactions and his tendence to be slow in many movements/situations. Taking into account that he's mostly SMF, yeah in 60's is high, but as he plays also as SB and does it at least decent sometimes, as SB isn't a great number. What about giving 73 in resp + similar number to Clemente? Will be fair for both and will work nice in game I guess, hadn't test it.
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby gotaa » 2012 May 05, 00:35

Okay done with those. Anyways I keep my doubt, he never is SB as starter, if he plays there is just to cover spaces and take advantage on his fitness, I'll try to keep an eye there. Minor differences still, of course.
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2012 May 05, 00:45

Yes it's difficult to rate these kind of guys. Btw he hasn't SB position here and if you put there in game he will be a bit lost I guess (guiding by overall rating and in game it's noticiable too when a player is placed at "wrong" or inhabitual positions, so it's fine). I almost forgot, some posts above I was talking to decrease a bit his DA with lastest revolutions and so...he isn't showing the same level of dribble and he's really hard to do it, I don't know why, it's like he's too much hurry or pressured, I don't know. I remember him many times miscontrolling the ball when he was dribbling, something really different from he used to be in Godoy Cruz and first matches of current season.
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby gotaa » 2012 May 12, 23:55

Maybe, but never lower than 78. I'd go for a 79 if I had to decrease, a minimal one. Am I only the one that thinks that his current ATT level in the set is high? He's not as dangerous as before, chooses th wrong option most of times in ATT. Despite of today's amazing goal, he was disappeared in action during the whole 2nd time (in fact, I though that he had been replaced, I realized he was in the field when he got the ball tha ended up in his goal). BTW I'm more convinced now about the 60 in DEF, and think he could have had a worse number.
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby xeneize » 2012 May 13, 00:28

agree about ATT, appart of that he don't look so dangerous, looks like he need more "determiantion" to go to atttack (i don't know how say it), maybe some point less woudl be fine to do that
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby gotaa » 2012 Jul 01, 16:03

So, I'd give worse ATT, DA, FKA, Header and Jump (is there any reason for the 78 there? I've never really watched if he could reach some altitude with his jump), what do you guys think?
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Jul 01, 17:12

Yeah his jump is more than decent, pretty athletic, nothing from another world but it's ok. Agree in the rest, go ahead. He really lowered his level a lot lately...does he even deserve that level of STA?
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby gotaa » 2012 Jul 01, 18:05

Yeah, now that you say... decreased STA 4 points apart from the rest of the changes
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby thor34 » 2012 Jul 12, 22:41

I think you have to climb to 75 or 76 his attack on ah been constantly going on the attack throughout the national tournament b either bad or good way, his short pass to 77, the speed of your short pass to 76 do not think the pass is less than Trezeguet, his free throw accuracy I think we should increase it in several places that only two points difference from Trezeguet and do not think it so bad I would say by hitting a 72/73/74, and finally mentality to 78/80 when the equipment is in bad he is one of maintaining the cold head
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby gotaa » 2012 Jul 12, 23:53

For going forwards everytime he has a high AGG, this has been his best season at showing attacking intelligence, so it was decreased. About FKA, he only shoots corner kicks once in a blue moon or crosses made from FKs, he doesn't need better as he never tries to shoot to the goal and has decent long passing values. Mentality, he? keeping cold head? he decreases his level and the pressure evidently affects his game in last minutes. The current number is fine IMO, he can deal well with a more than good Stamina.
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2012 Sep 10, 13:04

Vs Newell's. Played as RB and his marking was pretty poor. Also he commited a really stupid penalty because of a stupid hand when he was alone. Imo that isn't his position.
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby pelimetal » 2012 Oct 08, 21:43

Vs Godoy Cruz was awesome. He scored 2 goals and run all game long as before in Godoy Cruz(LEY DEL EX). He Showed so solidary in the middle of the field. Real good game.
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby thor34 » 2012 Nov 27, 21:43

He is playing very well the last game, running across the field, supporting the attack and defense coming and going from the right. One of the river scorers in this tournament, I think if it continues at this high level we will have to give you an update
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby LoganMac » 2013 Jan 05, 00:49

He was back to his best form after the match against Godoy Cruz, 8 matches or so... really 73 in response is way too low. Also Mentality should be at least higher than 70. Still LPA is his weakest point, no way he deserves 79, he's criticized for them in every match, I'd even go with white numbers, 73 or 74, good speed though. He scored 5 goals in the tournament showing some decent shooting, could be 72 or 73 in SA imo, i'd also lower his teamwork, he's often selfish and lacks vision of field, so 77-78. Ohh and last SPS could be in the green numbers, as for the rest it's pretty spot on
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby thor34 » 2013 Jan 06, 22:47

STA: 88/89
RESP: 75/76/77
LPA: 74
SA: 73
MENT: 73
TW: 77
Those are the changes I suggest je. If I ask for an explanation of
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Re: Carlos Andrés SÁNCHEZ

Postby Vickingo » 2013 Jan 07, 02:50

Yes, please.

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