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Aaron Lennon

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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby frshmn » 2012 Jan 22, 23:06

Agility really should be increased by 2 or 3 points. Lennon is AT LEAST as nimble as Nani, and definitely more nimble than both Pienaar and Wright-Phillips (no offense to either of them, they're both very agile players). Seriously, when the ball's at his feet, Lennon looks as though he has hips and ankles of elastic. Superb, seemless movements on the ball.
His TS is 83, big deal. Arguing for 79 is whiny.
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby Mr. Evans » 2012 Jan 23, 22:36

Look at his size though, he's so tiny. He's already more agile than Nani in game but I wouldn't argue two points higher at all. Nani was recently increased so Lennon could go up too.
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby BigStu » 2012 Jan 23, 22:42

he's already too "good in game"
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby Mr. Evans » 2012 Jan 23, 22:44

Is that your argument against higher AGI?
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby BigStu » 2012 Jan 23, 22:51

Yes, he's without a doubt the most agile in the league, like walcott is the fastest (just) flat out but like him fails to use it, he takes on beats too many players already, he should sit on a high yellow tbh and most of the time
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby Mr. Evans » 2012 Jan 23, 22:55

Hmm interesting. I've always seen him as easy orange AGI tbh though I'm not convinced. Will be taking a closer look on him then.
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby Jez » 2012 Apr 16, 19:01

Quite ironic how I came here to discuss Agility and it's already the topic ongoing (albeit quite old now). Regardless of height, he's by far the most agile player in the league, bar none. I'd say his body movements and turns are even superior to that of Messi. I'd honestly be looking at a red agility, I just can't see the argument for anything lower to be honest. He's ridiculously agile.

EDITL His first touch is surprisingly solid too, actually really impressive.
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby jurgens » 2012 Apr 16, 20:44

I agree with you.

Heres the thing from last year .... but seems a lot dont see him that way or at least 2/3 prem mods

jurgens wrote:can he not sit on red agility?


BigStu wrote:No, firstly on paper 93 is already high, he one of the shortest and lightest players and he plays fine in game currently



Paddy wrote:I'd completely agree with Stu, if anything I think its a bit too high.
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby BigStu » 2012 Apr 16, 21:15

I still agree though as with routledge a raise in agilty may be correct if da is decreased
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby alrizal » 2012 Jul 07, 16:00

45meter

agbonlahor lennon walcott
w/o ball 6.49 6.53 6.35
ball 7.57 7.37 7.51
total 14.06 13.90 13.86
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby Gugu » 2012 Jul 26, 08:48

I know he's small but he's definitely amongst the most agile players today, he can turn in an instant and it's something that really underpins his speed off the mark, I agree with Jez here. Also, is it just me or has is crossing ability improved compared to seasons past - a 76 Long pass accuracy seems a bit harsh imo :?
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby BigStu » 2012 Jul 26, 09:25

we overrated his crossing ability in the past, he should have been in whites
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby jurgens » 2012 Jul 29, 13:35

He needs red agility and red ds, the current values are so unrealistic.
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby BigStu » 2012 Jul 29, 13:44

and red values won't be? he hasn't show any near red ds for years
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby jurgens » 2012 Jul 29, 13:54

how is that I've seen red DS on motd so, so many times then
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby BigStu » 2012 Jul 29, 13:59

drugs in the water supply? Don't know, but he's slowed done loads in the couple for years and lot of the time he won't try to take players on even when he can beat, that is a confidence issue but there's no way to replicate in the game with given him a low DS
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby ErlandAbazi » 2012 Jul 29, 14:00

I suggest an increase to his agility by 3 points at least. He's probably the most agile player of the EPL, his quick turns and side-dribbles are terrific.
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby Mr. Evans » 2012 Jul 30, 11:06

Red AGI yes. I also still rate him on orange TS personally. But red DS, no way. Not for me that is. He's not special when it comes to maintaining speed on the ball. Don't care what Konami gave him. He's known for his short runs. He'll pick up the ball, run for a short distance and then stop to do whatever. Especially likes to run and stop, run and stop. Making great use of his unmatched ACC. What he does, doesn't warrant red DS at all. If he's red DS, the likes of Aguero, Pato, Ribery, Cristiano etc are all red DS as well.
That said, I do rate him higher than this. He's in the 88-90 region imo, the value you pick depending on your own personal preference.
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby jurgens » 2012 Jul 30, 11:57

hat he does, doesn't warrant red DS at all. If he's red DS, the likes of Aguero, Pato, Ribery, Cristiano etc are all red DS as well.


I really disagree with you. It's not a matter of what konami gives him, when he runs with the ball he seems to like punt and running, but always there is normal dribbling in there and he doesn't lose any real pace from what I've seen, and I've seen it countless times this season, admittedly its only through match of the day highlights, but still its happening. And I don't see why it would mean aguero needs red DS, aguero really fast on the ball, but he never sprints with the ball... lennon does. But I do see Ronaldo at red DS.
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Re: Aaron LENNON

Postby Mr. Evans » 2012 Jul 30, 12:37

Lennon doesn't sprint with the ball either, not for long that is. I guess I don't see what you see.
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