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Ricardo Laborde, Anorthosis Famagusta

Postby PES Stats Database » 2011 Sep 06, 14:14

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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby John » 2011 Sep 07, 16:08

Approved. Fixed some colours, age, also added the flag.

This set seems ok, although i have doubts that his Attack and Aggression are so low rated. Mind to review these aspects a bit?

Anyway keep them sets coming, it's always good to see more players for Cypriot teams here ;)
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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby Anorthosisfc » 2011 Sep 07, 18:48

Attack: 73
Aggression: 80

i compares with Okkas based on last season

maybe Attack can be 74-78 and Aggression 82
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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby John » 2011 Sep 08, 14:27

Yeah, seems fine to me. As for attack i would go with 75.
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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby Anorthosisfc » 2011 Sep 08, 14:45

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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby Anorthosisfc » 2012 Jan 01, 06:52

can anyone update the stats please

Attack: 77 ↑2
Defence: 36 ↑4
Response: 80 ↑4
Dribble Accuracy: 80 ↑1
Shot Accuracy: 79 ↑5
Shot Power: 83 ↑5
Shot Technique: 78 ↑2
Free Kick Accuracy: 71 ↑3
Technique: 81 ↑4
Aggression: 84 ↑4
Mentality: 77 ↑4
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 77 ↑3

Curling: 75 ↓1





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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby John » 2012 Jan 09, 06:18

Anorthosisfc wrote:can anyone update the stats please

Attack: 77 ↑2
Defence: 36 ↑4
Response: 80 ↑4
Dribble Accuracy: 80 ↑1
Shot Accuracy: 79 ↑5
Shot Power: 83 ↑5
Shot Technique: 78 ↑2
Free Kick Accuracy: 71 ↑3
Technique: 81 ↑4
Aggression: 84 ↑4
Mentality: 77 ↑4
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 77 ↑3

Curling: 75 ↓1



Sorry for the late response..
Actually i have a different view of him (along with many other players)

ATT: the 77 you suggested will make him too dangerous for my liking as he's a registered WF and he's nowhere good at positioning himself in the 18 yard box.

DEF: I'd agree to that.

RES: Well no, this is one of the most overrated stats among the players in Cyprus, the max i would go is 77 for him.

DA: He seems a bit dodgy for a yellow, therefore i suggest to lower him to a 78 or even to a 77. I would consider Manduca's 5 point gap fair as he doesn't have his flair on the ball, i would even consider to have a big gap between him and Ailton who is much more composed on the ball than him.

SA: Surely not a 79, comparing Cyprus level to other leagues we shouldn't place our players in such high values just because they score goals, but i would consider him a 76 max.

SP: I see him more of an 81 because of his low shots. Ok he has made some powerful shots but as you can see, he doesn't give that much power in his shots all the time, just 1-2 shots from 10 he makes look an 83.

ST: I would agree to that, he has a nice connection with the ball while shooting, can shoot under pressure and also has a nice first touch too.

FKA: I'd say ok but i want you to explain me a bit why he needs a raise?

TEC: Again no, not this high, another overrated stat in Cypriot league. I see many players getting a downgrade in this stat. If he got better i would raise him by only 1 point no more.

AGG: This seems a drastic raise, can you explain it a bit? (for me he looks more like an 82)

MEN/TW: Has his his work-rate and vision became better? He isn't as selfish as before, tracks back or chase the ball aggressively?
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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby Anorthosisfc » 2012 Jan 13, 19:30

DA: He seems a bit dodgy for a yellow, therefore i suggest to lower him to a 78 or even to a 77. I would consider Manduca's 5 point gap fair as he doesn't have his flair on the ball, i would even consider to have a big gap between him and Ailton who is much more composed on the ball than him.

i dont think that... if you have ever seen laborde with the ball you will understand why i said 80 and not 88-90(maybe that is the correct) for each 10 try to dribble there opponents he do that minimun the 9!!!

SA: Surely not a 79, comparing Cyprus level to other leagues we shouldn't place our players in such high values just because they score goals, but i would consider him a 76 max.

i dont think Cyprus League is the problem btw you are true 79 is little much 76 is correct!

SP: I see him more of an 81 because of his low shots. Ok he has made some powerful shots but as you can see, he doesn't give that much power in his shots all the time, just 1-2 shots from 10 he makes look an 83.

ok maybe this is true he have very powerfull shot but his shots is not all the time with much power

FKA: I'd say ok but i want you to explain me a bit why he needs a raise?

is the main performer of all free kicks.. Laban the old performer of free kicks have 76 and i dont think one ''better player'' on FKs can have only 68

AGG: This seems a drastic raise, can you explain it a bit? (for me he looks more like an 82)

80 to 84 i said becuse the old coach he use him only as a Left winger the new coach use him like a Striker Second Striker and ofc Winger

TEC: Again no, not this high, another overrated stat in Cypriot league. I see many players getting a downgrade in this stat. If he got better i would raise him by only 1 point no more.

maybe is high for cypriot League player but if u ask to any sport reporter witch player have better Technique to him play Laborde or Mantuca he will answer the first

MEN/TW: Has his his work-rate and vision became better? He isn't as selfish as before, tracks back or chase the ball aggressively?

He is not as selfish as before and he do lot of clever passes to him teammates ( i remember him the previus year trying to finish all possibilities alone)
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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby John » 2012 Jan 20, 04:32

Ok, we have SP:81, FKA:71, AGG:83(?), TW:77.

Ok and DA:80 after taking a quick view to the ladders.

Should his default position be changed to SS? What's the attacking system of Anothosis under Ron Levi nowdays?

About TEC, maybe you confuse it with something else because i don't see him as an 81, not even a yellow figure, TEC defines how well the player cushions the ball with his feet/chest while receiving a pass, if we take a view in Cypriot championship players playing in the same position, most of them are overrated in this aspect and only 2 are underrated in my opinion of course. I will try to rearrange them as most of these players clearly don't deserve such values.(Might as well chat over PM about this)

How about Mentality? You still think he deserves a 77? He will be 1 point under Okkas and 2 points more than Cristovao?

P.S. I will watch the game on Saturday if i can and will post my notes on some more Anorthosis players and have them updated as i overlooked them. ;)
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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby Anorthosisfc » 2012 Jan 20, 13:03

John wrote:Ok, we have SP:81, FKA:71, AGG:83(?), TW:77.

Ok and DA:80 after taking a quick view to the ladders.

Should his default position be changed to SS? What's the attacking system of Anothosis under Ron Levi nowdays?

About TEC, maybe you confuse it with something else because i don't see him as an 81, not even a yellow figure, TEC defines how well the player cushions the ball with his feet/chest while receiving a pass, if we take a view in Cypriot championship players playing in the same position, most of them are overrated in this aspect and only 2 are underrated in my opinion of course. I will try to rearrange them as most of these players clearly don't deserve such values.(Might as well chat over PM about this)

How about Mentality? You still think he deserves a 77? He will be 1 point under Okkas and 2 points more than Cristovao?

P.S. I will watch the game on Saturday if i can and will post my notes on some more Anorthosis players and have them updated as i overlooked them. ;)


ok all good!!!

Mentality 77 yes beacuse i saw him if we are back to the score some times he make some mistakes with him passes on empty space. Cristovao( He have not play matches this year cause an injury but if i remember Ricardo is better on this sectorΧD)


No his standard possition is Left winger
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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby John » 2012 Jan 22, 09:47

In yesterdays match he was very aggressive at fouling everyone on his sight, i think he has made around 9-10 fouls. Is he always like that?

He's very agile and fast i have to admit, other than these i have to add that he's a candidate of Darting Run and probably Turning skills but i'm not exactly sure which tricks this card provides.
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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby Anorthosisfc » 2012 Jan 22, 10:16

John wrote:In yesterdays match he was very aggressive at fouling everyone on his sight, i think he has made around 9-10 fouls. Is he always like that?

He's very agile and fast i have to admit, other than these i have to add that he's a candidate of Darting Run and probably Turning skills but i'm not exactly sure which tricks this card provides.


yesterday he made 6 fouls =D no he makes around 6-8 fouls per match (6 yellows in 17 matches for a winger =) )

I am no ecactly too which are the tricks of those cards...

btw amazing motion in phase of goal

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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby Anorthosisfc » 2012 Mar 21, 05:02

Top Speed: 89
Acceleration: 91

is the faster player in championship
Reason: faster than demitris christofis - aloneftis and cafu please dont write me he is playing for cypriot league and others like this (everyone in cyprus knows is the best player in league and lot of teams offer to Anorthosis more than 2mils to buy it
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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby John » 2012 Mar 31, 05:17

OK, are you sure he's this fast? I mean he's very fast no doubt, but i think of him as a much more composed player on the ball than Christofi.

I was thinking something like that:

Laborde should be rated like this: Dribble speed> Accelleration> Top speed with Dribble Accuracy and Agility advantage.
Christofi: Top Speed> Acceleration> Dribble speed with lower DA, DS, AGI but edging Laborde on TS with similar ACC.

In conclusion Christofi edges Laborde in speed off the ball whereas Laborde edges the Cypriot in DS, AGI, DA.

And about Aloneftis, he will get a new set when i have enough time to make some tests on PES.
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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby Anorthosisfc » 2012 Mar 31, 07:43

John wrote:Laborde should be rated like this: Dribble speed> Accelleration> Top speed with Dribble Accuracy and Agility advantage.
Christofi: Top Speed> Acceleration> Dribble speed with lower DA, DS, AGI but edging Laborde on TS with similar ACC.


Laborde

SPEED overall (82,5)
Response: 75
Explosive Power: 86
Dribble Speed: 84
Top Speed: 84

Others

Agility: 86
Dribble Accuracy: 79

full overall (82.3)

Christofi

SPEED overall (84,5)
Response: 77
Explosive Power: 85
Dribble Speed: 88
Top Speed: 88

Others

Agility: 85
Dribble Accuracy: 80

full overall (83.8)

this is huge difference between 2 players

DS
Laborde 84
Christofi 88
this for me is unbelievable... Christofi is not very slow to the dribbles but is slower than Laborde (3000%)

Explosive Power: Laborde (86) - Christofi (85)
Top Speed: Laborde (84) - Christofi (88)

This btw this video



player with number 70 follow R.Labrode (27sec) number 70 is Adamos hajigeorgiou(Loan from Anorthosis) He is very fast MF and see Laborde how many distance Laborde open from him

Laborde
and Agility: 86
Dribble Accuracy: 79

Christofi
Agility: 85
Dribble Accuracy: 80

Agility is ok but see DA: I am 100% if Christofi got 80 Laborde need to goes to 99 XD ok ok just kidding.. Laborde is better jugglers than Christofi.. the best jugglers in league
see also Zairi Dribble Accuracy: 84
Laborde need to goes to 92 or Zairi goes to 77 and Christofi to 78 and Laborde to 88

See also this




For me need to update full the set

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Club: Anorthosis Famagusta FC
Name: Ricardo LABORDE
Shirt Name: LABORDE
Number: 21
Positions: WF,SS, AM, SM
Nationality: Colombian _col
Age: 24 (16/02/1988)

Height: 173 cm
Weight: 65 kg

Injury Tolerance: B
Foot: R
Side: B

Attack: 83
Defence: 50
Balance: 80
Stamina: 85
Top Speed: 88
Acceleration: 91
Response: 78
Agility: 86
Dribble Accuracy: 88
Dribble Speed: 85
Short Pass Accuracy: 77
Short Pass Speed: 78
Long Pass Accuracy: 75
Long Pass Speed: 80
Shot Accuracy: 80
Shot Power: 87
Shot Technique: 78
Free Kick Accuracy: 75
Curling: 80
Header: 76
Jump: 81
Technique: 83
Aggression: 85
Mentality: 77
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 77

Condition/Fitness: 7
Weak Foot Accuracy: 7
Weak Foot Frequency: 6

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
Dribbling
Tactical Dribble
Positioning

PLAYER INDEX CARDS:

P04 - Darting Run
P10 - Incisive Run
S04 - PK Taker
S06 - Outside Curve
S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills
S21 - Step On Skills

MOTION STYLE:

Dribble Style: 1
Free Kick Style: 2
Penalty Kick Style: 2
Drop Kick Style: 1

ATTACK / DEFENCE AWARENESS:

Shoes:

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i will not say anything.The videoa speaks for itself (i use those numbers becasue he is not playing to Real or Barca)
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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby Anorthosisfc » 2012 Apr 08, 18:30

Laborde 2-1 Apoel Nicosia

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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby Zhirinovsky » 2012 Sep 21, 11:11



time to change everything about him, he's one of the best ... technology is great
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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby Anorthosisfc » 2012 Sep 27, 04:36

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Club: Anorthosis Famagusta FC
Name: Ricardo LABORDE
Shirt Name: LABORDE L.
Number: 21
Positions: WF,SS, AM, SM
Nationality: Colombian _col
Age: 24 (16/02/1988)

Height: 173 cm
Weight: 65 kg

Injury Tolerance: B
Foot: R
Side: B

Attack: 79
Defence: 50
Balance: 80
Stamina: 86
Top Speed: 87
Acceleration: 88
Response: 76
Agility: 85
Dribble Accuracy: 82
Dribble Speed: 84
Short Pass Accuracy: 75
Short Pass Speed: 75
Long Pass Accuracy: 78
Long Pass Speed: 79
Shot Accuracy: 78
Shot Power: 84
Shot Technique: 77
Free Kick Accuracy: 75
Curling: 78
Header: 72
Jump: 76
Technique: 82
Aggression: 88
Mentality: 79
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 77

Condition/Fitness: 7
Weak Foot Accuracy:6
Weak Foot Frequency: 6

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
Dribbling
Tactical Dribble
Positioning
Reaction

PLAYER INDEX CARDS:

P04 - Darting Run
P05 - Mazing Run
P09 - Incisive Run
S01 - One-touch play
S02 - Outside Curve
S05 - Speed Merchant
S13 - Step On Skills
S23 - 180 Drag

MOTION STYLE:

Dribble Style: 1
Free Kick Style: 2
Penalty Kick Style: 2
Drop Kick Style: 1

ATTACK / DEFENCE AWARENESS:


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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby Zhirinovsky » 2012 Sep 28, 08:50

it seems to me to be so

Explosive Power: 89
Dribble Speed: 87
Top Speed: 91

Technique: 90

★ Dribbling
★ Tactical Dribble
★ Positioning
★ Reaction
★ Penalties
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Re: Ricardo LABORDE

Postby Anorthosisfc » 2012 Oct 05, 14:26

Zhirinovsky wrote:it seems to me to be so

Explosive Power: 89
Dribble Speed: 87
Top Speed: 91

Technique: 90

★ Dribbling
★ Tactical Dribble
★ Positioning
★ Reaction
★ Penalties


Yes you are true but in psd looks the championship that players are play in for the stats
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