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Bastian Oczipka

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Re: Bastian OCZIPKA

Postby Hayame » 2012 Oct 30, 12:59

But he isn't as good jn crossjng as you want to make him. He just isn't.
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Re: Bastian OCZIPKA

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Oct 30, 15:56

I could see LPA going up to 79, maybe even 80. But that's the maximum for him, you have to take into account that he's always making runs on the wing, crossing more often than most Side Backs but his bad crosses aren't shown in a highlight video, look at him over 90 minutes and you'll see. Also I still don't understand why you want to give him passer and playmaking? Passer would just make him pass the ball around instead of making this runs on the wing that he's known for. And playmaking? It's not like he's an orchestrator of attacks, just a normal yet very offensive SB. Running in free spaces along the line, playing one-twos, out-pacing opponents, crossing, that's all he does. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Re: Bastian OCZIPKA

Postby Vodoved » 2012 Oct 30, 17:49

ok
I don't agree with your at all, but I can understand you point of view

Malakayi wrote:Running in free spaces along the line, playing one-twos, out-pacing opponents, crossing, that's all he does. Nothing more, nothing less.


is it mean that he deserves increasing ATT and AGG and adding *reaction *1-touch passing?

and what about curling and condition?
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Re: Bastian OCZIPKA

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Oct 30, 23:46

Vodoved wrote:
Malakayi wrote:Running in free spaces along the line, playing one-twos, out-pacing opponents, crossing, that's all he does. Nothing more, nothing less.


is it mean that he deserves increasing ATT and AGG and adding *reaction *1-touch passing?

and what about curling and condition?


It does just mean what I said, nothing more. :) But I have nothing against a slight raise of LPA (as I said), AGG and maybe even ATT. Condition +1 is also okay. Why should he have higher curl? He never kicked a corner or free kick. Same with Reaction, he already has darting run and high AGG, feel free to add it in your game though if there are no cards. And just because he plays one-twos with his teammates doesn't make him a skilled 1-touch-passer.
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Re: Bastian OCZIPKA

Postby Vodoved » 2012 Oct 31, 00:58

Malakayi wrote:Same with Reaction, he already has darting run and high AGG, feel free to add it in your game though if there are no cards.


I play pes5 and many others take skills from PSD for pes 5 or pes6 and they don't know what Darting run card mean:)
I don't know how darting run card affects on player actions if it like Reaction so ok but it will be good if equivalent cards and special abilities will be added both
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Re: Bastian OCZIPKA

Postby Hayame » 2012 Nov 25, 14:27

Last game he made again a good assist trhough a very accurate cross. He need a increase in FKA and Curl. He takes most Freekicks from far away. So he don´t shoot to often on the goal. His freekicks have a real nice Curl. So in FKA i would go on 73 and in Curl in low 80´s about 82 or so.
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Re: Bastian OCZIPKA

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Nov 25, 17:49

agree, LPA can also be in yellows if you ask me. Also candidate for Early Cross.
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Re: Bastian OCZIPKA

Postby Hayame » 2012 Nov 25, 22:11

He already has Early Cross ;)

Agree but I see LPA over LPS. As example the assist against Schalke yesterday the ball was in the air for a while but quite accurate. Same at freekicks.

So I´m going to update him.

FKA: 73
Curl: 82
LPA: 82
LPS: 79
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Re: Bastian OCZIPKA

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Dec 09, 10:38

I think in some areas he's still much better than current numbers, I will post some suggestions later.
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Re: Bastian OCZIPKA

Postby Affenhorn » 2012 Dec 10, 14:34

Call me crazy, but I would give him LPA 85. His crosses are the best in the BL at the Moment. Perhaps lower LPS, something like 75-77.
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Re: Bastian OCZIPKA

Postby Vodoved » 2012 Dec 10, 18:36

And I think he plays very well this season
I suggest
Form: 6
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Re: Bastian OCZIPKA

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Dec 10, 19:14

Affenhorn wrote:Call me crazy, but I would give him LPA 85. His crosses are the best in the BL at the Moment. Perhaps lower LPS, something like 75-77.


not crazy at all imo. :lol:

Vodoved wrote:And I think he plays very well this season
I suggest
Form: 6


That's just fair considering his performances.
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Re: Bastian OCZIPKA

Postby Hayame » 2012 Dec 10, 19:48

I´m very harsh in rating players from my favourite club and I´m always afraid from overating players because of fanboy blabla but maybe your right. I´m really like to see the suggestions from Malakayi.
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Re: Bastian OCZIPKA

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Dec 10, 20:15

I would change the following:

ATT 73 -> 74 ...slightly better
DA 78 -> 81 ...despite preferring passing options and one-two play with his teammates he is able to successfully dribble behind his opponent
LPA 82 -> 85 ...thanks to Affenhorn
LPS 79 -> 78 ..."
SA 67 -> 65 ...never saw an accurate shot from him
BC 77 -> 78 ...slightly better
RES 73 -> 75/76 ...not as slow minded as current value suggests, fit to defend well against pacey or tricky players
STA 84 -> 87 ...runs up and down the line, most crosses of all the Bundesliga players and still defending
TW 74 -> 78 ...always trying to make himself available as a passing option though he sticks to his line, so maybe optional a change
Form 5 -> 6 ...thanks to Vodoved
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Re: Bastian OCZIPKA

Postby Hayame » 2012 Dec 10, 21:11

agree and updated.
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Re: Bastian OCZIPKA

Postby Vodoved » 2012 Dec 11, 11:37

Malakayi wrote:SA 67 -> 65 ...never saw an accurate shot from him


I find one ;)

http://youtu.be/i2FpP8e8q9Q?t=2m19s
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Re: Bastian OCZIPKA

Postby Malakayi » 2012 Dec 11, 21:31

Vodoved wrote:
Malakayi wrote:SA 67 -> 65 ...never saw an accurate shot from him


I find one ;)

http://youtu.be/i2FpP8e8q9Q?t=2m19s


haha great find, and even with his right foot :lol:
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Re: Bastian Oczipka

Postby Affenhorn » 2014 Sep 05, 10:23

With all Respect, but I don't like your Update, Hayame. Bastian lost his Place against Djapka and he never shows his great Form from 2011/2012 again. We all know he can play much better, but he didn't do it for over a Year now :(
Btw, your other Updates for SGE-Players got my full Support :)
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Re: Bastian Oczipka

Postby Hayame » 2014 Sep 05, 14:16

The update were just really minor changes. Which value do you mean exactly?
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Re: Bastian Oczipka

Postby Affenhorn » 2014 Sep 05, 20:02

My Post was a bit hasty. But I expected more Downgrades for Oczipka after the last Season, for Example in Stamina and Form. But let's wait a little bit, he played his last full Match nearly half a Year ago in May against Leverkusen. For the Moment the Update is absoltuly okay !

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